15-08-2004 02:44									#91
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May I just point out the irony in the fact that this thread has ended up in a dispute between two canadians

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	15-08-2004 02:44									#92
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KH,

Why don't you calm down and stop calling your opponents stupid, idiots and what not. It's rather unpleasant to witness.

	15-08-2004 02:45									#93
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quote: Originally posted by Asmodean May I just point out the irony in the fact that this thread has ended up in a dispute between two canadians Asmodean

Jimmy is not Canadian. He's an American living in Canada. He grew up in Massachussets and loves to pretend to be Canadian while always taking everybody else's side.

	15-08-2004 02:46									#94
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quote: Originally posted by Winston KH, Why don't you calm down and stop calling your opponents stupid, idiots and what not. It's rather unpleasant to witness.

As soon as he stops repeating himself I will.

And as an afterthought, piss off, Winston. It's none of your affair.

	15-08-2004 02:47									#95
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Only the Danes can put an armed naval vessel near Hans island is what you should have said then. Because we can put planes in the sky and boots on the ground. Your hard-on for naval power is interesting but futile.

Ok, so what is flying a plane (that isn't going to shoot) and landing troops (that aren't going to fight) going to accomplish, besides pissing of the Danes?

I don't have a hardon for naval power, I'm saying that since the Danes sent a frigate first (and they did so because its the logical thing to do in an arctic setting when you want to have prolonged (but temporary and alternating) force, while also not wanting to do anything drastic like landing permanent troops), we should match their vessel with one of our own, which we don't have. If they sent in a squandon to fly by it, I would say we should do the same, but since they didn't, we're in a more difficult position... maybe precisely the reason they sent what they sent.

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Where's Ned? We need him here so I have another target.

	15-08-2004 02:49									#97
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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn Ok, so what is sailing a warship (that isn't going to shoot) and landing troops (that aren't going to fight) going to accomplish, besides pissing of the Canadians?

I don't know. Why don't you ask the Danish government?

quote: I don't have a hardon for naval power, I'm saying that since the Danes sent a frigate first (and they did so because its the logical thing to do in an arctic setting when you want to have prolonged (but temporary and alternating) force, while also not wanting to do anything drastic like landing permanent troops), we should match their vessel with one of our own, which we don't have. If they sent in a squandon to fly by it, I would say we should do the same, but since they didn't, we're in a more difficult position... maybe precisely the reason they sent what they sent.

Can you say "contrived reasoning"?

	15-08-2004 02:50									#98
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Jimmy is not Canadian. He's an American living in Canada. He grew up in Massachussets and loves to pretend to be Canadian while always taking everybody else's side.

Not true, I never have pretended to be Canadian. I say "we" because I live here now, and am going on five years here. I have just as much claim as saying I'm Canadian as Agathon does.

And how is this not Winston's affair? He is Danish (iirc), and this is a Canadian-Danish issue.

	15-08-2004 02:52									#99
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse And as an afterthought, piss off, Winston. It's none of your affair.

You must be a delightful human being to be around. No wonder you're so in love with yourself.

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Take down that flag then and fly colours showing who you really are.

	15-08-2004 02:54									#101
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quote: Originally posted by Winston You must be a delightful human being to be around. No wonder you're so in love with yourself.

It's hard not to be, sweetheart.

	15-08-2004 02:57									#102
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I don't know. Why don't you ask the Danish government?

I meant the Danish, you know that.

quote: Can you say "contrived reasoning"?

Listen, just because I can see the complexities in this situation and you can't, doesn't weaken my argument.

But lets sumarize. I'm saying we should send a frigate up because its a peaceful show of force, and matches what they've sent so far, setting precendent that we're sovereign over our own territory, including navally.

You're saying it doesn't make a difference because we can "blow their asses out of the water and land boots on every piece of ice up there", which doesn't address the issue of Hans Island in any shape or form.

Remember, I haven't said yet whether I believe Canada should own the Island or not. I'm saying that if Canada wants the island, and to set a good precendent, it should stick up for itself, which so far it has done a piss-poor job of doing, even in the face of a much smaller and weaker country.

	15-08-2004 02:59									#103
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse Take down that flag then and fly colours showing who you really are.

No, its a location flag. Its not a "where I wish I was" flag. My location is Canada. In fact you should be flying Old Glory, Marylander.

Edit: And as I said, I have just as much claim calling myself a Canadian as any other immigrant group in Canada. In fact, I have more claim than you, seeing as I actually live in Canada.

	15-08-2004 03:00									#104
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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn I meant the Danish, you know that.

I remember the good old days, when if you quoted somebody and editted the quote they would realise that you had done so, and ask themselves why.

If it turned out that only two words needed to be editted and the quote would serve equally well as an argument for the other side then they would retire to reconsider their position, and perhaps comes tto the conclusion that it was untenable.

	15-08-2004 03:02									#105
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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn No, its a location flag. Its not a "where I wish I was" flag. My location is Canada. In fact you should be flying Old Glory, Marylander. Edit: And as I said, I have just as much claim calling myself a Canadian as any other immigrant group in Canada. In fact, I have more claim than you, seeing as I actually live in Canada.

I would never want to pretend to be an American. I can understand why an American would want to pretend to be a Canadian, but it still annoys me a little bit. Sort of like those American backpackers who sew Canadian flags on their stuff so that people won't dislike them.

	15-08-2004 03:03									#106
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I remember the good old days, when if you quoted somebody and editted the quote they would realise that you had done so, and ask themselves why. If it turned out that only two words needed to be editted and the quote would serve equally well as an argument for the other side then they would retire to reconsider their position, and perhaps comes tto the conclusion that it was untenable.

Those days are over.

	15-08-2004 03:05									#107
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I would never want to pretend to be an American. I can understand why an American would want to pretend to be a Canadian, but it still annoys me a little bit. Sort of like those American backpackers who sew Canadian flags on their stuff so that people won't dislike them.

That time of the month? Old lady won't give you any? or just bored?

	15-08-2004 03:06									#108
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	15-08-2004 03:09									#109
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse I would never want to pretend to be an American. I can understand why an American would want to pretend to be a Canadian, but it still annoys me a little bit. Sort of like those American backpackers who sew Canadian flags on their stuff so that people won't dislike them.

You think thats why I have a Canadian flag in my local field? So I won't get flamed by non-Americans? As I said, I have a Canadian flag up because I live in Canada, pay Canadian taxes, make Canadian money, have a Canadian girlfriend, and pretty much live, breath and experience Canada on a daily basis. Not difficult seeing as I, well, live in Canada. Unlike you I might add.

When and if I leave Canada, I will change my flag accordingly. But until then I will remain unapologetically an American-Canadian, and take on any opinion I choose.

	15-08-2004 03:15									#110
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DP

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	15-08-2004 03:23									#111
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I must have hit a nerve if you DPed.

	15-08-2004 03:26									#112
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	15-08-2004 03:27									#113
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There there. You really don't have to continue posting it, sugar.

	15-08-2004 03:29									#114
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Don't know what happened, Apolyton went down for a while there for me. Didn't think it posted in the first place, let alone twice before.

	15-08-2004 03:30									#115
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That's okay. We're all sensitive about certain things.

	15-08-2004 03:31									#116
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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn You think thats why I have a Canadian flag in my local field? So I won't get flamed by non-Americans? As I said, I have a Canadian flag up because I live in Canada, pay Canadian taxes, make Canadian money, have a Canadian girlfriend, and pretty much live, breath and experience Canada on a daily basis. Not difficult seeing as I, well, live in Canada. Unlike you I might add.

Is it legal up there to make Canadian money?

	15-08-2004 03:32									#117
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Funny you should mention that.

There's been a large increase in counterfeiting recently.

Hmmmm....

	15-08-2004 03:34									#118
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quote: That's okay. We're all sensitive about certain things.

Yeah, because everyday my Canadianess is questioned. Only my close friends know I'm American, random acquaintences have no idea, because I'm not the type of person to flaunt my nationality. Just like I'm sure every Marylander goes "whoa, look at that Canadian!" wherever you go.

But seriously Krazy, you haven't even made an argument yet. What side of the issue do you stand on? And do you realize what you've suggested flies in the face of what the Canadian Government actually has planned for handling the region?

But I guess you wouldn't, since you don't live in Canada.

	15-08-2004 03:35									#119
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quote: Originally posted by JimmyCracksCorn Yeah, because everyday my Canadianess is questioned

How can something nonexistent be questioned?

	15-08-2004 03:37									#120
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quote: And do you realize what you've suggested flies in the face of what the Canadian Government actually has planned for handling the region? But I guess you wouldn't, since you don't live in Canada.

Given that I have been eligible (and have) voted in two federal elections, including the most recent one I have much more responsibility for taking decisions on this issue than you do.