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The strange thing is that it was the Repus as you call them who seemed to have called Kid on his racist views.


Yeah, well, the Repugs on this forum are a hell of a lot smarter than Repugs at large. Neither do you have to pander to a large racist community to get elected. Regardless of the very real racism on the part of the left and despite what Speer thinks, Black people are smart enough to tell their enemies from their allies.

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what the ****? hispanics, italians, and irish fall for the democratic propaganda too...


Again, that whole smart enough to figure out your allies and your enemies things.

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it has nothing to do with intelligence! it's about the fact that blacks, hispanics, irish, italians, et al are concentrated in established Democratic strongholds such as cities.

it's kind of like what the Democrats did a century ago in the South... poor whites would have been best off voting for the Populist Party and discarding the racism that was indoctrinated into them by the Democratic Party.

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Black people have a greater understanding of the injustic in the world. Don't just limit it to economic injustic.


Trust me on this. Black people are extremely myopic when it comes to injustice. They have vaalid complaints about what is done to them, but they don't often aid other oppressed communities. People like Jesse Jackson and MLK are rare. The vast majority of Black leaders and activists care about Black people only, and West Indians and Africans aren't included (except when politically convenient).

Black nationalism has pretty thoroughly corrupted Black politics. It seems radical because of the militant rhetoric, but it's actually an extremely conservative philosophy dating back to Marcus Garvey and Booker T. Washington.

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It seems radical because of the militant rhetoric, but it's actually an extremely conservative philosophy dating back to Marcus Garvey and Booker T. Washington.


wow Chegitz, you've finally accepted what I've been saying for years!

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it has nothing to do with intelligence! it's about the fact that blacks, hispanics, irish, italians, et al are concentrated in established Democratic strongholds such as cities.


Right, cuz people aren't smart enough to figure out which party's politics hurts them and which parties doesn't hurt them as much. If it were simply expediency of whatever party was ascendant, we'd expect to see far more Black and Hispanic Repugs in the South, but we don't. The fact is, people are smart enough to vote against a party which is opposed to their interests.

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If it were simply expediency of whatever party was ascendant, we'd expect to see far more Black and Hispanic Repugs in the South, but we don't.


southern Democratic politicians are socially conservative...

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Trust me on this. Black people are extremely myopic when it comes to injustice. They have vaalid complaints about what is done to them, but they don't often aid other oppressed communities. People like Jesse Jackson and MLK are rare. The vast majority of Black leaders and activists care about Black people only, and West Indians and Africans aren't included (except when politically convenient).

Black nationalism has pretty thoroughly corrupted Black politics. It seems radical because of the militant rhetoric, but it's actually an extremely conservative philosophy dating back to Marcus Garvey and Booker T. Washington.


i can't really argue with you there, but I do think, in general, a black person will recognize injustice before a white person. Although they might not care, if it doesn't concern them. That is stupid too though. "Injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere" -King.

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southern Democratic politicians are socially conservative...


Yes and no.

 
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