19-08-2004 12:16									#1
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Maybe this is old news, but after waiting 7 minutes reading stories after finding out that we were under attack Bush went outside and took photos for 20 minutes. I find it absolutely incredible.

	19-08-2004 12:18									#2
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Well ****.

	19-08-2004 12:23									#3
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Oh here's a recent quote that is more hilarious than just Bush bashing.

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
- George W. Bush, August 5th, 2004

	19-08-2004 12:29									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious This is incredible. The man serves his country. It's wrong to attack him like this.

	19-08-2004 12:30									#5
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How exactly is one meant to react to news that a hijacked plane has been crashed into the WTC? Run around and scream for a bit? Find a phone booth to perform a quick costume change?

	19-08-2004 12:32									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp How exactly is one meant to react to news that a hijacked plane has been crashed into the WTC? Run around and scream for a bit? Find a phone booth to perform a quick costume change?

****. I even stopped what I was doing to find out what the **** was going on.

	19-08-2004 12:41									#7
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I see. So he should have jumped up and said "What? What's going on? Put the TV on!"?

Or continue what he was doing, considering he's got a network of lackeys ready to bring him updates?

	19-08-2004 12:45									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp I see. So he should have jumped up and said "What? What's going on? Put the TV on!"? Or continue what he was doing, considering he's got a network of lackeys ready to bring him updates?

A simple 'excuss me, I have some presidential duty to attend to' would be what I would expect.

	19-08-2004 12:48									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Winston

I don't call that serving your country.

	19-08-2004 12:52									#10
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Bush is the captain of a very big ship. It takes a long time for any course correction to have an impact, and it is a waste of time to act without knowing exactly what you want to do. He waited for information and advice. You could not have done better without information learned after the fact, though you might have had enough political acumen to disallow any more filming while you waited.

On the other hand it didn't take very long before he toppled the Taliban in a landlocked country to which previously we had no access whatever. The Bush is a dick and there are hundreds of reasons to criticize him and his policies, but this criticism is absurd. But what do you expect from Michael Moore but inane propoganda which appeals to society's dimmer bulbs?

	19-08-2004 12:52									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious I don't call that serving your country.

Of course not. After all, this isn't an attack on John Kerry.

	19-08-2004 12:56									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Bush is the captain of a very big ship. It takes a long time for any course correction to have an impact, and it is a waste of time to act without knowing exactly what you want to do.

He didn't know anything except that we were under attack. The problem is that he didn't bother to find anything out. That's the neglegence.

	19-08-2004 12:59									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Of course not. After all, this isn't an attack on John Kerry.

I don't support Kerry.

	19-08-2004 13:03									#14
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You did 45 minutes in Lincoln's thread. But I admit you may have gotten better.

	19-08-2004 15:03									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Bush is the captain of a very big ship. It takes a long time for any course correction to have an impact, and it is a waste of time to act without knowing exactly what you want to do. He waited for information and advice. You could not have done better without information learned after the fact, though you might have had enough political acumen to disallow any more filming while you waited.

To use your analogy, if an emergency happens on a ship, the captain goes to the bridge. He doesn't stay in bed reading a book.

But what Bush did is completley understandable. When faced with an emergency, he was overwhelmed. He went into shock. He didn't know what to do. He was out of his depth.

	19-08-2004 15:58									#16
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finishing the reading is OK... the picture thing is weird...

	19-08-2004 18:09									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Oh here's a recent quote that is more hilarious than just Bush bashing. "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." - George W. Bush, August 5th, 2004

Everybody knows that what Bush meant is that we should not stop thinking about how terrorists may harm this country.

	19-08-2004 18:09									#18
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Yawn! This is of as much relevance as the factoid that Kerry sat for 45 minutes in a semi-comatose state when he was made aware of the attacks.

Completely meaningless.

	19-08-2004 18:30									#19
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You may not be aware of this Ogie, but Kerry wasn't the president at that time. We should all really count ourselves fortunate that Bush's response to September the 11th wasn't to go take another vacation.

	19-08-2004 18:30									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Maybe this is old news, but after waiting 7 minutes reading stories after finding out that we were under attack Bush went outside and took photos for 20 minutes. I find it absolutely incredible.

Bullshit. Show me one photo of Bush after he left the classroom at approximately 9:12. This is too stupid for any further comment.

	19-08-2004 18:34									#21
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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat Everybody knows that what Bush meant is that we should not stop thinking about how terrorists may harm this country.

Well, so that means thinking up ways to hurt the country, no? So Bush said exactly the truth.

	19-08-2004 18:38									#22
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Well, so that means thinking up ways to hurt the country, no? So Bush said exactly the truth.

If we are going to stop another 9-11, we have to know what kind of attack the terrorists may try. So, don't we have to learn to think like terrorists to stop terrorists?

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quote: Originally posted by The diplomat If we are going to stop another 9-11, we have to know what kind of attack the terrorists may try. So, don't we have to learn to think like terrorists to stop terrorists?

Just admit the man can't speak and be done with it. This charade of an arguement won't go very far.

I do agree with him on one thing- he has been very successful at thinking up ways to hurt the country.

	19-08-2004 18:44									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie You may not be aware of this Ogie, but Kerry wasn't the president at that time. We should all really count ourselves fortunate that Bush's response to September the 11th wasn't to go take another vacation.

	19-08-2004 18:49									#25
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So you admit that it's probably pretty stupid to compare the actions of the president in response to a terror attack to someone whose influence is about 5 times less the order of magnitude? Good.

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Not necessarily, if that someone has a decent chance of being Prez when the next attack comes around.

Personally, I'm not positive what ol' Dubyah should have been doing instead. He couldn't very well order an attack on Afghanistan then and there, could he?

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quote: Originally posted by Gibsie So you admit that it's probably pretty stupid to compare the actions of the president in response to a terror attack to someone whose influence is about 5 times less the order of magnitude? Good.

I think I've been on record numerours times in the F911 about the ludricous attempts to make an issue out of a clearly meaningless factoid when there was little to nothing that was capable of being done in the that time frame, be it 7 or 27 minutes.

Were you to say he was derelict for a span of 2 or more hours during that time, there could be a point.

My point regarding Kerry is likewise to show/highlight the idiocy of the right making this a counterpoint.

This is a nonissue.

	19-08-2004 19:33									#28
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	19-08-2004 19:35									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp I see. So he should have jumped up and said "What? What's going on? Put the TV on!"? Or continue what he was doing, considering he's got a network of lackeys ready to bring him updates?

he should have gotten back in Air Force One!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's the closest command center the president has. And has all the necessary communications equipment the president needs.

And don't tell me it wasn't safe. That was bullshit. They could have moved the plane to another airport then (and have the chopper fly to the new airport) and noone would know which one it was supposed to be in.

	19-08-2004 19:36									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Sikander Bush is the captain of a very big ship. It takes a long time for any course correction to have an impact, and it is a waste of time to act without knowing exactly what you want to do. He waited for information and advice. You could not have done better without information learned after the fact, though you might have had enough political acumen to disallow any more filming while you waited. On the other hand it didn't take very long before he toppled the Taliban in a landlocked country to which previously we had no access whatever. The Bush is a dick and there are hundreds of reasons to criticize him and his policies, but this criticism is absurd. But what do you expect from Michael Moore but inane propoganda which appeals to society's dimmer bulbs?

I didn't expect Bush to take any real action. But he should have gotten to a place with better communications so he can assess the situation. ie air force one.