30-08-2004 09:13									#31
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I honestly don't know enough history to really go into it all. But Atilla benefited from decades of decline in Rome and previous barbarian invasions.

If I'm not mistaken, I think there was some political discord in the Arab world that the Mongols benefited from, plus I believe the Plague was affecting Europe around the same time as the Mongol invasion.

Napoleon got some of his conquests through political alliances and marriage I believe, as opposed to straight conquest.

Caeser... oh hell, he pretty much just conquered France, right? Not in league with the others.

I think there were some political divisions in the people the early Muslims conquered too that helped them out.

As for Alexander, I dunno.

And I may be wrong on some or many of the above facts, and there may be many more facts that I just don't know about. But I do know that fate/luck/environmental factors always plays a big part in things like this.

	30-08-2004 09:14									#32
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Khan. He did pretty good for not having advance weaponry. And he really only had one method of attacking. His forces were not diverse. Yet he did pretty damn well for himself despite these weaknesses in his forces.

	30-08-2004 09:14									#33
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quote: Seriously, he conquered all of Asia.

No he didn't.

quote: The Mongols are number 1 on my list of civilizations that I would like to see make a comeback.

The Mongols never existed!!!

	30-08-2004 09:15									#34
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did anyone mention Bush yet

	30-08-2004 09:16									#35
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Here's an even tougher question. Who was the worst conqueror.

I'd like to here an answer to that one.

	30-08-2004 09:17									#36
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO Alexander brought civilization with him, as well as being a conquerer among the best. Ceasar can claim something similar, but given the resources of Rome can't compare to Alexander. khan, while a brutal conquerer, brought little else.

the poll has nothing to do with civilization. It's based off pure conquering ability. **** civilization.

	30-08-2004 09:18									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident Khan. He did pretty good for not having advance weaponry. And he really only had one method of attacking. His forces were not diverse. Yet he did pretty damn well for himself despite these weaknesses in his forces.

Yeah, but his tactics were something that the people he conquered had never seen or expected.

	30-08-2004 09:19									#38
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that's why he's the greatest.

Alexander was pretty damn good though. He's definately a close second.

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Hitler could be included too.

	30-08-2004 09:27									#40
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP Napoleon got some of his conquests through political alliances and marriage I believe, as opposed to straight conquest.

War is just an extension of diplomacy.

	30-08-2004 09:50									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: Seriously, he conquered all of Asia. No he didn't.

Word, God bless the Kamikaze.

quote: quote: The Mongols are number 1 on my list of civilizations that I would like to see make a comeback. The Mongols never existed!!!

	30-08-2004 09:52									#42
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quote: Word, God bless the Kamikaze.

Isn't the kamikaze already, by definition, blessed by the gods?

	30-08-2004 09:53									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Alexander - marching a Greek army in 350 bc all the way from Hellas to India via Egypt and Central Asia, fighting all the way, is one of the greatest feats of arms of all time. An achievement never equalled.

As his horse, you can't be impartial here.

	30-08-2004 09:56									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: Word, God bless the Kamikaze. Isn't the kamikaze already, by definition, blessed by the gods?

Yeah, I found that out the other day.

Kami, what an interesting word. It means God, Hair, paper and probably a few other things. I found that amusing.

Nippon
Kamikaze

	30-08-2004 09:59									#45
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quote: Kami, what an interesting word. It means God, Hair, paper and probably a few other things. I found that amusing.

Kami for hair, kami for paper and kami for god aren't the same word, but merely homophones. They use different kanji to represent each.

	30-08-2004 10:01									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: Kami, what an interesting word. It means God, Hair, paper and probably a few other things. I found that amusing. Kami for hair, kami for paper and kami for god aren't the same word, but merely homophones. They use different kanji to represent each.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it was still amusing.

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I agree.

	30-08-2004 10:04									#48
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quote: Originally posted by OzzyKP As for Alexander, I dunno.

Just imagine a Greek army humping it over the khyber pass before the rise of Rome and you get the idea.

	30-08-2004 10:06									#49
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ma, ma, ma, ma!

	30-08-2004 10:10									#50
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I have to go with Alexander

The amount of ground he covered in a short period of time, the enemies he took down and the terrain he had to deal with were an unequalled accomplishment.

	30-08-2004 10:13									#51
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What's up with the outfit though.

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	30-08-2004 10:23									#52
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quote: What's up with the outfit though.

Well, he was gay.

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Khan!

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	30-08-2004 10:26									#54
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Khan is buff!!!

	30-08-2004 10:27									#55
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All Alexander did was conquer a bunch of lightweight scrubs, he couldn't even beat the Indians. Hell, the British beat the Indians.

Temujin on the other hand, pwned RUSSIANS. Dude, hardly anyone pwns the Russians. Temujin was just like "Rooskies? WTF? These guys are just n00bs." And then he want all beserker rage on them, totally upper-cutting all these guys.

Plus Temujin had the single greatest biological impact on the human race of any single person ever, with 16 million living men carrying his Y-chromosome. All Alexander did was play around with his nubile young male lovers.

	30-08-2004 10:27									#56
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And old.

	30-08-2004 10:30									#57
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quote: Plus Temujin had the single greatest biological impact on the human race of any single person ever, with 16 million living men carrying his Y-chromosome. All Alexander did was play around with his nubile young male lovers.

Link!!

	30-08-2004 10:33									#58
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Link:
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/brief...21/genghis.html

	30-08-2004 10:35									#59
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Where were you yesterday, monkspider? You missed grobnok's mongol thread.

	30-08-2004 10:36									#60
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quote: Originally posted by DaShi And old.

He can still bust out the one armed pushup though!