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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
Some Ottoman guy belongs here, I cant keep em straight. |
Salim I the Grim, who took the Mamelukes?
Suleyman I the Magnificent (the Lawgiver), who took Hungary, Iraq, and much of Arabia?
Mehmet II the Conqueror, who took Constantinople, Serbia, Bosnia, Herzegovinia, Otranto, Jandar, Karaman, Morea, Athenes, and Albania?
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:36
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Salim I the Grim, who took the Mamelukes?
Suleyman I the Magnificent (the Lawgiver), who took Hungary, Iraq, and much of Arabia?
Mehmet II the Conqueror, who took Constantinople, Serbia, Bosnia, Herzegovinia, Otranto, Jandar, Karaman, Morea, Athenes, and Albania? |
take your pick, i was thinking Mehmet.
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of Aptos, CA
Oct 1999
time: 21:36
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
and of course mohammed only conquered the arabian peninsula, but his next 4 successors, the "rightly guided" caliphs, were perhaps the most impressive conquerors in world history. With a group of nomads as pathetic as any pre ghengis mongols, they beat two of the worlds greatest powers, took most of the heartland of ancient and classical civiilization, establishing an empire from the Atlantic to eastern persia, and whats more the empire they established lasted longer as a unit than Alexanders, and had a cultural impact that well exceeded that of the mongols.
as a collective they should get top honors. |
Yeah, but they cheated. They attacked Persia and the Romans after they had totally exhausted themselves with their own war that went on for what, 30 years?
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Geronimo
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st cloud USA
Jan 1970
time: 05:36
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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
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Would the Horde have been able to beat the Japanese had they actually landed their invasion force?
I say no. |
They did land their invasion force, both times. The second time around, the Japs held them at bay for seven weeks at Hakata before the typhoon arrived to destroy the Mongol fleet.
edit: This, of course, assumes that the Mongols existed, which they didn't. |
Why did people only recently begin to question the historical existance of the mongols? I've been looking for references for this new revisionism and so far I've only encountered it here on Apolyton.
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30-08-2004 22:41
Central asia just before the mongol invasion was at least as developed and certainly more wealthy than europe at the time. Sadly it is likely that the reason that central asia is a vast wasteland is precisely because of the mongol invasions. They were horrifically brutally destructive. As they swept through central asia the devastation they visited upon all resisting cities and towns would make romes treatment of carthage look like the Marshall Plan.
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