01-09-2004 13:08									#1
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quote: A girl is hurried away from the scene by armed Russian officers. RELATED • Moscow suicide bomber kills 9 • Explosions led to Russia crashes YOUR E-MAIL ALERTS Chechnya (Russia) Russia or Create your own Manage alerts | What is this? MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Armed attackers have seized a school in a town in southern Russia, and Russia's ITAR-TASS news agency says about 400 people, including 200 children, are being held. The Interfax news agency, citing Ismel Shaov, a regional spokesman for the Federal Security Service, said there were 17 attackers, both male and female, and the gang included some who were wearing explosive belts. Wednesday's seizure took place on the first day of the Russian school year, in the town of Beslan in North Ossetia, Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) said. Video of the scene from Russian Television showed Russian forces stationed near the school, some of them behind a tank, as the sound of gunfire could be heard. A young girl and an older woman were hurried to safety by the armed forces. Beslan is located 19 miles (30 km) north of Vladikavkaz in southern Russia, which borders the troubled Russian republic of Chechnya. The seizure of the school comes a day after a female suicide bomber killed nine people and herself, and wounded 51 others when she detonated a bomb outside a subway station in northeastern Moscow. (Full story) Authorities did not immediately say if the female bomber was Chechen. The bombing marked the second major terrorist attack on Russia in a week, following the near simultaneous attacks on two Russian airliners by what authorities believe were two Chechen women suicide bombers. Eighty-nine people died in the crashes. Female Chechen suicide bombers are known in Russia as "black widows." Authorities have said traces of the explosive hexogen were found in the wreckage of both planes. Hexogen, when mixed with nitroglycerin, forms a plastic explosive similar to C4 and has been used by Chechen rebels in attacks on Russian soil in the past. Chechen rebels -- who refused to take part in Chechen elections held Sunday and vowed to take their fight to Russian soil -- have denied responsibility. But many Russian politicians are already linking them to Tuesday's suicide bombing, calling it revenge for the elections in which a Kremlin-backed candidate won the presidency. Russian troops have battled separatist guerrillas in Chechnya since 1994. In October 2002, about 50 Chechen rebels seized a Moscow theater and took about 800 hostages. After a three-day siege, Russian forces stormed the building using gas, killing most of the rebels and 120 hostages.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europ.../russia.school/

This is not good.

	01-09-2004 13:17									#2
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The picture of the girl is heartbreaking. B*stards.

	01-09-2004 13:37									#3
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you'd think they'd never kill children, but then it has happened in Germany before, without any religious-separatist background, just sheer madness - this must be worse...

	01-09-2004 13:46									#5
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How few Chechens there are, and how big problems they can cause for Russia.

	01-09-2004 14:00									#6
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I believe a reasonable part of children they caught in that school are Chechens too.

	01-09-2004 14:01									#7
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Yep, there they go again (it seems).

I'm sad to say it, but Josef Vissarionovitch Dzjugasvilji was the only one that could 'handle' the caucasus...

	01-09-2004 14:01									#8
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This was the first day of school and it was supposed to be a day of celebration for the kids and their families.

	01-09-2004 14:02									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin Yep, there they go again (it seems). I'm sad to say it, but Josef Vissarionovitch Dzjugasvilji was the only one that could 'handle' the caucasus...

It's because he was from Caucasus himself.

	01-09-2004 14:04									#10
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Yes, I know, from Gori.

	01-09-2004 14:08									#11
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*******s. Well, I am not surprised by Islamist fanatics.



"But the Russian army are terrorists, too!"

	01-09-2004 14:11									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel "But the Russian army are terrorists, too!"

wtf?

	01-09-2004 14:22									#14
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quote: wtf?

precisely.

	01-09-2004 14:23									#15
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WTF_2?

	01-09-2004 14:30									#16
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Serb: the rolleyes is the key.

	01-09-2004 14:38									#17
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but they ARE terrorists... no?

	01-09-2004 15:33									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Kropotkin Yep, there they go again (it seems). I'm sad to say it, but Josef Vissarionovitch Dzjugasvilji was the only one that could 'handle' the caucasus...

You must be kidding. The only thing he managed was to mess things up even further. Unless by 'handling', you mean it in the Nazi handling of Jews way.

	01-09-2004 16:18									#19
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You read Yakovlev aka Soviet Guebels to much.
Btw, speaking about atrocities, Chechens fought on the same side as Nazi in WW2. And Stalin in no way was an inventor of wartime measures such as deportations. USA used it before him.

	01-09-2004 16:30									#20
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Stalin = *******.

	01-09-2004 16:31									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Hurricane You must be kidding.

I said 'handle' not handle. Isn't it obvious? When they caused trouble during his reign, he sent the lot of them to Kazakstan. Not even Putin would be able to pull that off.

	01-09-2004 16:38									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Serb You read Yakovlev aka Soviet Guebels to much. Btw, speaking about atrocities, Chechens fought on the same side as Nazi in WW2.

I guess the Great Patriotic War wasn't that patriotic after all.

quote: And Stalin in no way was an inventor of wartime measures such as deportations. USA used it before him.

Well, then it's perfectly ok, isn't it.

	01-09-2004 16:42									#23
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quote: I guess the Great Patriotic War wasn't that patriotic after all.

LOL TRUE HEROES FIGHT ON THE SIDE OF HITLER LOL

	01-09-2004 17:15									#24
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*******s the bunch of them.

I don't mind armed resistance when there is no peaceful way to influence the policy-making.

However, I mind the terror these *******s bring upon the population. Especially schoolchildren

	01-09-2004 17:32									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Azazel quote: I guess the Great Patriotic War wasn't that patriotic after all. LOL TRUE HEROES FIGHT ON THE SIDE OF HITLER LOL

What the heck is that supposed to mean?

	01-09-2004 17:33									#26
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Holding children hostage

	01-09-2004 17:34									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Serb You read Yakovlev aka Soviet Guebels to much. Btw, speaking about atrocities, Chechens fought on the same side as Nazi in WW2. And Stalin in no way was an inventor of wartime measures such as deportations. USA used it before him.

You know just ****ing say Stalin was a bastard and stop trying to play that stupid game about this country did this and this country did that ok. Just admit that he was a bastard. I'll admitt that the US has done very horrible things if you just stop that stupid **** and say he is a bastard because it is exactly that kind of **** that has gotten Russia into this mess in the first place.

And yes this is a very very horrible thing, but is Russia really that insecure that it needs Stalin as a hero? If your offended, I'm sorry and I'm sorry that I do this in a thread about such a tragedy but drop the whole Stalin wasnt as bad as x, y and z ****. It makes you look bad..

	01-09-2004 17:35									#28
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Dito to that Sprayber.

	01-09-2004 17:41									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Serb You read Yakovlev aka Soviet Guebels to much. Btw, speaking about atrocities, Chechens fought on the same side as Nazi in WW2. And Stalin in no way was an inventor of wartime measures such as deportations. USA used it before him.

Except in WWII, almost everyone in the U.S. put into a camp made it out alive, Germans and Italians included. The same can't be said in Russia.

	01-09-2004 17:51									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Hurricane What the heck is that supposed to mean?

what the heck is

quote: I guess the Great Patriotic War wasn't that patriotic after all.

supposed to mean? You think that the fact that people fought on the side of Hitler is something to make smartass comments about? Well good for them, fighting on the side of evil.