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If they play like they did in the second half against Scotland France are going to decimate them.


Yep. Les grenouilles will get one touch in ten.

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Many thanks to Finbar for highlighting your oversight.


Is there no end to his perversity?

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In his defence Jason is doing a fairly decent job at Sale. He is certainly more successful at club level captaincy than Johnny golden balls.


Yes, but that doesn't prove that the previously insurmountable gulf between the codes has been bridged, does it.

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*I should point out here that, having worked there some time ago, the only good thing I have ever seen come out of Gloucester is the M5 heading north*


Put away your Hale & Pace joke book and get back to work.

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An honest opinion Finbar - no joke intended. There are no major soccer side anywhere near that town so all the low IQ mob follow the rugger side - meaning there is a large element of their fan base that is unpleasant company - somewhat unusual for Union.

And I must have tempted fate - we drew them in the Powergen cup this morning at our place. Should be a nice easy win though.

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An honest opinion Finbar - no joke intended. There are no major soccer side anywhere near that town so all the low IQ mob follow the rugger side - meaning there is a large element of their fan base that is unpleasant company - somewhat unusual for Union.


I take your point. We have our own version in our neck of the woods. Western Australians.

Interesting to read this morning that the online bookies have France as favourites, reflecting that the Australian money has been for a French win.

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I take your point. We have our own version in our neck of the woods. Western Australians.


Not being a West Australian I heartily agree.

finbar has it backwards of course as WA doesn't have a rugby team, forcing some of the more intelligent supporters to gravitate to soccer.


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This Saturday will be very busy with Ireland vs. South Africa, Stade Toulousain vs. Racing Club de Narbonne and France vs. Australia.


*Ahem*
Well, yes, I can see that some people may consider those of some small import - provided of course that these people are unable to catch the weekends feature event of NZ vs Italy.


Something I'm sure will put joy into the heart of a certain Englishman (Moody, IIRC?) -

http://www.planetrugby.com/Teams/Ne...ory_39705.shtml

The (hopeful) return of Jonah to the AB's next year.
If he can only find a smattering of the form he had before his liver troubles began ...

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Not being a West Australian I heartily agree.


Yeah yeah, and when you're home in the Land of the Long White Clods, you claim to be West Australian. BTW, is that d*ckhead editor of that daily Perth rag still in the job?

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Interesting to read this morning that the online bookies have France as favourites, reflecting that the Australian money has been for a French win.


If it were Marseille this would be fair – but it is Paris so the game is 50-50 at worst. Naturally I am supporting France myself.

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finbar has it backwards of course as WA doesn't have a rugby team, forcing some of the more intelligent supporters to gravitate to soccer.


The exception that proves the rule? There is a marked difference between the crowds in the UK – and the sound of knuckles dragging is often heard as a Soccer ground empties.

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provided of course that these people are unable to catch the weekends feature event of NZ vs Italy.


The Italian forwards are starting to look useful and will compete well – but the Kiwi back division, even this young touring side, should cut them apart.

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Something I'm sure will put joy into the heart of a certain Englishman (Moody, IIRC?) –


Tony Underwood (Jonah’s favourite footwear) retired years ago due to a bad knee. Lewis Moody has little to fear from a one kidneyed Lomu – rather the reverse. Moody has the strength of a Finnegan and the skill and guile of a Wilson or Backy – and is a flanker rather than a weak girlie to be run over.

Lets be honest here it is ridiculous for Jonah to consider playing rugby again. I admire his commitment but any hard knocks in the area of that transplant might kill the man – and rugger is not worth that (nor would it be fair on the poor sod who tackles him!).

Oh yeah gents – lots of Kiwi centres on display this weekend. Some even play for the ABs. Fascinating game with ABs v Italy – at any one time there could be 21 Kiwi’s on the pitch.

Horrible thing to say but the Kiwi’s seem to be the prossies of the rugby world – talent for hire…

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If it were Marseille this would be fair – but it is Paris so the game is 50-50 at worst. Naturally I am supporting France myself.


That's fair. I'm supporting the Canadian Baby Fur Seals. That match is actually being shown live here. I have a bit of a rugby marathon starting in the early hours of Sunday morning. Four in a row.



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Lets be honest here it is ridiculous for Jonah to consider playing rugby again. I admire his commitment but any hard knocks in the area of that transplant might kill the man – and rugger is not worth that (nor would it be fair on the poor sod who tackles him!).


It's his fantasy. Probably what has kept him going for the last couple of years. I doubt that any team could afford, insurance-wise, to play him.

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Horrible thing to say but the Kiwi’s seem to be the prossies of the rugby world – talent for hire…


Leicester paying prostitutes? *shocked*

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If it were Marseille this would be fair – but it is Paris so the game is 50-50 at worst. Naturally I am supporting France myself.


Thank you for your support Havak, I am rather confident myself.

Naturally, I am supporting all the brittanic nations fighting against the heathens from the SH.

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Originally posted by Ravagon Well, yes, I can see that some people may consider those of some small import - provided of course that these people are unable to catch the weekends feature event of NZ vs Italy.


What? You mean I will miss the most important game of the week-end, the most tensed and filled with suspense game of the month, the Italians about to win against the AB!

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Yep. Les grenouilles will get one touch in ten.


Don't bet on it, though Australia seems to have understood that the game can also be played with forwards you are going to play against some of the best in the world.


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Is there no end to his perversity?


Pointless question, he is English!

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Naturally, I am supporting all the brittanic nations fighting against the heathens from the SH.


I'll be there next year. Echoing your sentiments!

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Don't bet on it, though Australia seems to have understood that the game can also be played with forwards you are going to play against some of the best in the world.


That's what Eddie Jones keeps saying so it must be right. He also says France has the best back row in the world. I think he's Japanese-Australian-French.


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Pointless question, he is English!


It was you!

Looks like we're going to need a new thread title soon. I propose:

Rugby - Tamerlin misreading my posts again!

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I have a bit of a rugby marathon starting in the early hours of Sunday morning. Four in a row.


You lucky devil – apart form the early hours bit.

I’m granted permission to listen to Tigers then watch England but I’ll see highlights of the rest at best.

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I doubt that any team could afford, insurance-wise, to play him.


Good point – I hadn’t thought about the insurance.

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Leicester paying prostitutes? *shocked*


Just the one.

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Thank you for your support Havak, I am rather confident myself.




I still don’t know why it’s in Paris – surely all the Aussies are working in bars down in the south east.

*crude cultural stereotypes – must be a Friday afternoon*

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the Italians about to win against the AB!


I wish this were true – but I can’t see it. The AB forwards will be tested – but that’s about it.

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you are going to play against some of the best in the world.


Certainly the most settled and proven pack in the world right now I would say. It will test players like Dunning that is for sure – he struggled against Scotland.

Eddie always praises opponents before the kick off – lets see what he says after the game.

Scotland play Japan this weekend – anyone prepared to take Japan as the winners?

Wales-Romania – even the Taffs cannot boof that up?

I have a counter suggestion:

Rugby – Tigers on Top

No?

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It was you!


Oooops!

Turn your back from this thread two or three days and you have to read 3 to 4 pages of posts. I think I have read them too quickly.

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Rugby - Tamerlin misreading my posts again!


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What about Rugby - Out of Thread Titles

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No problem with that one here.

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Ok, I'm running with it.

Unless someone else has a better suggestion...?

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Ok, I'm running with it.

Unless someone else has a better suggestion...?


May I suggest a small alteration? The title, in itself, will be a title. Therefore the suggested title will, in fact, be wrong. Because it's a title. I'd suggest:

Rugby - Scraping The Bottom Of The Barrel For A Title. Or something along those lines. If that one's too long, perhaps:

Rugby - Running Out Of Titles.

You get my drift?

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You lucky devil – apart form the early hours bit.

I’m granted permission to listen to Tigers then watch England but I’ll see highlights of the rest at best.


:henpecked:

I'll just have to watch it on the downstairs TV. Luckily, we have cable outlets in the bedroom upstairs and the living room downstairs. The England, Boks and All Blacks games are on cable, the Wallabies game is on Channel 7. Typically, 7 will have their commentators in the studio here in Sydney, calling the game off a monitor. They're too cheap to send the commentators on the tour. At least they were last time.

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Eddie always praises opponents before the kick off – lets see what he says after the game.


No, he likes the French, particularly since they cleaned up their act. He has a lot of respect for Laport, especially for cleaning up the French act. I think Eddie appreciates some of the similarities between the French and Australian approaches to the game. He just wishes he had the French forwards.

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Rugby – Tigers on Top

No?


Sorry, that would contravene the site's policy against offensive titles.

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Just tuned in to Leicester -v- Worcester on the BBC website.

Worcester 6 lead Leicester 0 after 11 minutes.

Havak is suffering some pre-lunch indigestion.

I've hever heard a female rugby commentator before either.

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Half time France 12- 11 Australia.
The Australian try followed a blatant forward pass if anyone's interested in my opinion (even if not).

What's Cali doing? That's post 499!

Rugby - A title, quick!

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Final score: France 27 - 14 Australia.
Better performance of the French. A bit lacking in attack in the first half, although they scored 2 tries during that period. The French insisted too much on attacking in the center when they probably should have passed the ball wide to Heymans or Brusque. Very strong game by Betsen, as usual, and Marsh. Michalak scored a great try which helped his team enormously.
The Australian scrum, particularly the loosehead, had a lot of problems. The French got penalised once for pushing early, but then Gregan waited forever before introducing the ball .
All in all the Wallabies lacked in the winger department. Sure, Tuqiri is a huge player, but on the other wing, it was quite pitiful. That and the front row is not top-notch, but I may have said it already.
Thus, an entertaining game, with strong defense on both sides, which made for several penalties in the second half, where the better team prevailed.

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I wouldn't disagree with much of that. The French were better on the night, even if the score flattered them a little. You're right about our front row. I thought our forwards competed in the first half, but the French forwards seriously exposed them in the second half. Yes, the loosehead is the biggest problem, but, unfortunately, he's the best we have available.

Our other winger is Clyde Rathbone, and I don't think his performance was his fault. I think Gregan pretty much wasted our backline. He kept either persisting up the short side - yes, it earned us a try, but it's really a low percentage option over the course of a game; or handing it to Mortlock to try to crash through the French defence. Every time Tuquiri touched the ball he looked dangerous, but he had to go and get the ball himself. Rathbone was stranded on his wing. The ball never came near him.

Great defence from both sides, I thought, even if the swarming French defence was offside for most of the match! I would also appreciate it if M'sieur Haymans were a little more careful where he puts his boots and hands.

Anyway, a very entertaining game played at full speed throughout, with the usual number of errors that occur in that context. The French were ultimately too strong in the forwards and made much better use of their backline.

Eddie has his usual amount of thinking to do.

England 127,000 -d- Canada 0

Fairly predictable, I'd've thought. Any top team is on a hiding to nothing playing an essentially amateur outfit - every mistake is glaring, every missed opportunity stands out. Beergut stilll can't throw into a lineout, England has to find a consistent goalkicker, and Henry Paul doesn't seem to know where an outside centre should position himself. It wasn't a real test of the new England outfit, nor was it ever going to be. That's all in the future.

EDIT. Oh, and I notice that Ireland rolled the Boks. I have it on tape to watch. Serves Bok coach Jake White right. Apparently he called the Irish second-rate and imposters in the lead up to the game. Stupid of him, and very unlike him. Thus far, he has been one of the more sensible international coaches. Learn from it, Jake.

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Half time France 12- 11 Australia.
The Australian try followed a blatant forward pass if anyone's interested in my opinion (even if not).


Yes, I am!

But nonetheless...

 
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