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Siberia, Communist party of Apolyton
Nov 2001 time: 11:24
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quote: Originally posted by Vince278
*Boldface above is mine.
Shocking reports just out of Russia. Regular army fleeing the scene? No coordinated leadership? Spetsnaz borrowing ammo from the locals? Largest single loss of Spetsnaz troops? It boggles the mind. I don't know what to say. |
The largest single loss of Spetsnaz troops- is correct, they never lost so many officers in a single operation, even when they stormed the palace of Amin in Afghanistan in 1979, iirc. In fact I beileve that 12 KIA in this operation is comparable to number of all their previous losses during entire their history (untill 1991, Alfa lost only 2 or 3 of their officers KIA, iirc). That because they often simply couldn't return fire, since terrorists were hididng anmong the kids and many paid with their own lives to save the children.
About the rest, you have to take into account that people who says this lost their loved ones and are very angry about that. They complain that there was no storm and as result so many died. In 2002, people who lost their loved ones in theater complained that there was storm and as result so many died. The part about Spetsnaz borrowing ammo from the locals is pure BS. From what I saw, Spetsnaz use very special weapons (actually, I was unable to indetify their rifles, but certanly they are not just simple AK), where the hell locals could find ammo for such rifles, they are even not allowed to have AK's bullets.
Regular army fleeing the scene? Don't know, I didn't see this, but I wasn't there, what I saw is that soldiers were carry the children away, but I indeed know that spetsnaz arrived 30 minutes after explosions, becuase they were in different part of the city practicing the storm in a building of similar type. Despite that leadership were saying that there will be no storm, spetsnaz have different tasks. Negotiators should negotiate, spetsnaz should prepare the rescue operation, so they found the similar building and start to prepare the rescue operation, just how they always do. It's another proof that it wasn't a planned storm and explosions were absolutely unexpected.
No leadership? I don't know. From what I know the head of FSB of North Ossetia was in charge of operation.
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