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let's not forget that Nemo is obviously a tip of the hat to Jules Verne, who was French, and therefore anti-American...



damn, thats right. But then what about Back to the Future part3?

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One of the heros is Gil, obviously a reference to the anti-American leutenant in the movie Platoon- obviously a pro-Kerry and hence anti-American statement.

Then there is Jaques, the french shrimp- very sneaky putting in what seems like an anti-French slur, but hey, Jacque is also a hero, and hence anti-American.

Finally, anyone note how there were no bald eagles? How can we allow such slurs?

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I think the horse movie he refers to is probably "Home on the Range" (?) one of the heros besides the cows was Buck the horse.

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Weren't the ranch owners white and nice people?

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No, he means spirit

Must be getting your info from the bloggosphere again.

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wasnt trainspotting a horse movie?

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One of the heros is Gil, obviously a reference to the anti-American leutenant in the movie Platoon- obviously a pro-Kerry and hence anti-American statement.


yeah, but Gil could be Israeli.

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Only if you mean "horse tranquilizers".

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Bloggosphere clearly indicates that Spirit was NOT a Disney film.

Wait let me confer with CBS on that for a sec......


Nope they say it was and have documents proving it.

Who to believe?

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wasnt trainspotting a horse movie?


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I believe the only American in "Trainspotting" got mercilessly battered in a public lavatory. Proof!

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Anyway, isn't it about time Americans had a go at the "bad guy" role? Surely you're all sick of importing Brits to do the job by now.

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I believe the only American in "Trainspotting" got mercilessly battered in a public lavatory. Proof!


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Only if you mean "horse tranquilizers".


Ok, who gets to explain the USA slang?

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If finding Nemo can be seen as anti-american, what about music artists!


Hmmm......Rage Against the Machine are probably in gauntanamo - thats why they haven't done an album for a while (their lyrics probably contravine the Patriot act?)

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Ok, who gets to explain the USA slang?


Please explain it to me too.

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Ok, who gets to explain the USA slang?


I'd appreciate it if someone did. I always like to learn these things.

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Ok, who gets to explain the USA slang?


Ooh, ooh, ohh, oh me! Choose me Mistair Kotair!

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It's okay. I'm living in the belly of the beast and grew up less than 45 miles from its extremities yet I don't know that one either.

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horse = h = smack = heroin

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Bloggosphere clearly indicates that Spirit was NOT a Disney film.

Wait let me confer with CBS on that for a sec......


Nope they say it was and have documents proving it.

Who to believe?


Well, If you note, Nemo wasn't a Disney pic either..hence, we are talking about what Ned classifies as Disney pics- given his track record, I think it is a safe bet to say it was spirit, since that is aboput a horse, not just featuring a horse.

See, this is what happens when you rely on the bloggosphere instead of delving into the material.

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Ah. Actually, I think I might have known that at some point.

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horse = h = smack = heroin


I think the "smack" link in the chain is redundant, but I get the point. Thanks.

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Well, If you note, Nemo wasn't a Disney pic either..hence, we are talking about what Ned classifies as Disney pics- given his track record, I think it is a safe bet to say it was spirit, since that is aboput a horse, not just featuring a horse.

See, this is what happens when you rely on the bloggosphere instead of delving into the material.


most good blogs have links to sources, etc.

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so do many bad books? The point is not linking to sources, its linking to good and relevant and credible source plus good analysis.

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Your describing the failings of 'old' media to the T.

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gods, if someone thinks "Finding Nemo" was anti-American then they should watch the sequel to the great Japanese movie "Battle Royale". And yes, I am saying that because they'd probably have a heart attack and die on the spot!

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Your describing the failings of 'old' media to the T.


Thankfully, the bloggospehre remains a minor and relative unimportant echo chmaber with little relevance to the populace as a whole. Much like Holocaust deniers, moon landing conspiracy people and Scientologists.

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so do many bad books? The point is not linking to sources, its linking to good and relevant and credible source plus good analysis.


Nope. I can check the NYT, WaPo myself. THe most interesting blogs have links to obscure stuff - the Pakistani press, or some obscure magazine. I will judge the reliability of the source myself. Though if its an area im not familiar with it certainly helps to have a judgement about the source.

For something like the producer of a movie, its easy to find a reliable and neutral link. Id have to see the blog page Ned was quoting from to see what the issue was.

 
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