12-09-2004 21:40									#61
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mrmitchell, that was in ryongchon, which is in the p'yonganbuk (n p'yongan) province

	12-09-2004 22:03									#62
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Great Leader farted?

	12-09-2004 22:09									#63
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Is the area volcanically active?

	12-09-2004 22:18									#64
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quote: Originally posted by dv8ed If it's nuclear, wouldn't it have been confirmed by a dozen different university seismologists by now? It would be hard for the government to lie on something like this...

Well suppose this top blast was just to mask a subterranean nuclear test. We'll probably end up having to do our own tests, but this would screw up any crater formed by an underground detonation, as well as the seismograph readings.

	12-09-2004 22:18									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove An explosion at a munitions factory or storage depot my produce a shock big enough to be detected by seismograph, and might set fires large enough to produce a 2 mile wide cloud.

My point was more that any large explosion would be easy to detect and confirm without any sort of government interference, so it is unlikely that they could claim it was a forest fire for long without somebody showing up with evidence to the contrary if it existed.

	12-09-2004 22:29									#66
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The Us is saying its not nuclear- more significantly, the north isn't talking. If they had tested a nuke, they would say, becuase that is the point- announce your feat, why keep it quiet?

MIght have been a massive accidental explosion of munitions, rocket fuel, or another highly explosive substance.

	12-09-2004 22:42									#67
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The latest CNN article is full of BS explanations. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

	12-09-2004 22:47									#68
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Denmark have nuked N. Korea? The plot thickens

That's one hell of a mushroom cloud, 4km...that's in the megaton range of device, which I sincerely doubt N. Korea would have the capability to produce...could it be a small meteor impact?

	12-09-2004 22:57									#69
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Well, if we really want to get complicated- the North Koreans were planning to test a nuke, but the test went wrong, and it occured next to a bunch of military installations full of rocket fuel and high explosives, hence a gigantic boom.

Or maybe a NK nuclear test set of a forest fire...

Or some other mysterios event- like a UFO.

	12-09-2004 22:58									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Denmark have nuked N. Korea? The plot thickens That's one hell of a mushroom cloud, 4km...that's in the megaton range of device, which I sincerely doubt N. Korea would have the capability to produce...could it be a small meteor impact?

its smaller then the Hiroshima cloud.

	12-09-2004 23:00									#71
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fine, i'll admit what happened.

a source has told me a small cadre of south korean ghosts went in with no backup, but used their ocular implants to guide a nuclear device launched from tarsonis into nkorea.

kekekeke ^____________^

	12-09-2004 23:01									#72
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Why would you send a whole cadre when one would do?

	12-09-2004 23:06									#73
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Decoys.

	12-09-2004 23:07									#74
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Smaller than the Hiroshima cloud? Are you sure...the Hiroshima bomb was fairly small...

	12-09-2004 23:07									#75
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the general wanted a guarantee.

otherwise, a fleet of battlecruisers, siege tanks, hercs, and marines would have been sent in, with some wraiths to keep the skies clear.

and that would have been bad news, because of those damn scourges... and it might have attracted the attention of some scouts and carriers.

	12-09-2004 23:17									#76
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It's time to take out the Dear Overmind

	12-09-2004 23:20									#77
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I'd avoid using the Yamato Cannons, because you might alienate your allies in the region. They're touchy about that, you know.

	12-09-2004 23:21									#78
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It's Tunguska all over again!

	12-09-2004 23:24									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Smaller than the Hiroshima cloud? Are you sure...the Hiroshima bomb was fairly small...

the mushroom cloud was 5km in diameter there.
http://mothra.rerf.or.jp/ENG/A-bomb...ry/Damages.html

"The top of the atomic cloud reached an altitude of 17,000 meters. " thats about 10 and a half miles high.

It doesnt have the 5km radius figure, I'm still looking for where that came from, but it seems reasonable.

	12-09-2004 23:26									#80
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http://www.cddc.vt.edu/host/atomic/...im/hiro_med.htm

theres a pictorial representation of the cloud on a graph with height and distance.

	12-09-2004 23:28									#81
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Smiley, don't you think you're going a bit overboard in the latest NW?

	12-09-2004 23:55									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha its smaller then the Hiroshima cloud.

No, it's rather twice as large.

quote: Well, if we really want to get complicated- the North Koreans were planning to test a nuke, but the test went wrong, and it occured next to a bunch of military installations full of rocket fuel and high explosives, hence a gigantic boom.

and ironically enough, that's about as "logical" an alternative explanation available. This was an atomic test of >50~ kilotons, and the public gets to learn of it like an incremental walk into shocking cold water

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quote: Originally posted by Zylka No, it's rather twice as large. and ironically enough, that's about as "logical" an alternative explanation available. This was an atomic test of >50~ kilotons, and the public gets to learn of it like an incremental walk into shocking cold water

Zylka how big is the Hiroshima cloud? I'm working under the figures that I saw from another forum that it was 5km in diameter. and this thing is around 4km in diameter.

	13-09-2004 00:23									#85
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The mushroom cloud wasn't that large, it is saying that the most critical damage occurred within that radius...

	13-09-2004 00:29									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison The mushroom cloud wasn't that large, it is saying that the most critical damage occurred within that radius...

huh?
"The cloud measured 3.5 to 4 kilometres in diameter, an unidentified diplomatic source told Yonhap . "

that seems to be the cloud.

	13-09-2004 02:19									#87
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And you guys whine about Iraq casualties, you couldn't stomach an NK/US war.

	13-09-2004 02:21									#88
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nobody i know seriously contemplates an NK/US war... at least, not in regards to regime change in NK...

	13-09-2004 02:24									#89
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If I had a penny every time a poytubbie advocated invading NK before Iraq I would be rich.

	13-09-2004 04:40									#90
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anyone seen the picture so far? no. anyone felt the seismic acitivty? no.

so it probably didn't even happen. just a test to see how the people react. and they don't seem to be too shocked.