13-09-2004 23:32									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos Just got back, and oh how I hate work.

Well, are you still in post-deployment standdown?

	14-09-2004 01:51									#122
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It is time to end the bizarre regime in NK. The best way to do this is for the SK gov't to cut a deal with China in exchange for cooperation. Thereafter, the Chinese could advise Kim that it was time to go, and to grease his skids out of town. Kim may be just sane enough to take the offer -- as once did Marcos when the US offered him asylum. When Kim was gone, the Chinese army could move in and take control. Once in control, they would allow SK to assume power and resposibility for the North.

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	14-09-2004 03:08									#123
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What does leveling a mountain have to do hith a hydroelectric project? Why would they need the electricity when everyone there is in the sh!thole? This is such an obvious lie it's funny.

	14-09-2004 03:22									#124
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quote: It is time to end the bizarre regime in NK. The best way to do this is for the SK gov't to cut a deal with China in exchange for cooperation. Thereafter, the Chinese could advise Kim that it was time to go, and to greese his skids out of town. Kim may be just sane enough to take the offer -- as once did Marcos when the US offered him asylum. When Kim was gone, the Chinese army could move in and take control. Once in control, they would allow SK to assume power and resposibility for the North.

Although I don't think this is the best plan or notion, due to cost, there is historical precedent for it.

Silla did request the help of China in order to conquer Paekche and Koguryo and unify the peninsula...

Of course, then China tried to stay, but they were quickly kicked out by Silla.

	14-09-2004 03:30									#125
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Tommarrow is the last day of stand down but I took the first two weeks of POM so I am back to work now.

Work didn't seem like such chore at sea, but now that I could be doing something else it is torture.

	14-09-2004 04:52									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos Tommarrow is the last day of stand down but I took the first two weeks of POM so I am back to work now. Work didn't seem like such chore at sea, but now that I could be doing something else it is torture.

Was this your first Med cruise?

	14-09-2004 04:53									#127
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It was probably just some mad scientist.

	14-09-2004 05:03									#128
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Yeah, first cruis period.

Though I would call it an IO/PG cruise over a Med

	14-09-2004 05:07									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos Yeah, first cruis period. Though I would call it an IO/PG cruise over a Med

Should gone to SD.


WESTPAC, baby.

	14-09-2004 05:11									#130
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[Q]Originally posted by Ned
the Chinese could advise Kim that it was time to go, and to greese his skids out of town. Kim may be just sane enough to take the offer -- as once did Marcos when the US offered him asylum.[/QUOTE]

Man, you are so outta touch with reality.

Kim is a cult leader. He won't go easily. He'll try and burn the Korean peninsula and everything in his reach as a monument to his divinity.

Marcos took the U.S. offer because he had no choice. Within a very short period, his presidential palace was going to be stormed and he would have been ripped to shreds by angry mobs.

There's only one way to get rid of Kim, the painful way, which is why no one's gonna do it. It's not worth millions of dead Koreans just to get rid of him.

	14-09-2004 05:14									#131
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quote: Should gone to SD. WESTPAC, baby.

Me, you, and the 500,000 other members of our proud Navy...

Which is why I didn't get to go there

	14-09-2004 05:16									#132
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I was originally suppose to go to NSGD Rota....but they change my orders....

	14-09-2004 05:17									#133
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quote: There's only one way to get rid of Kim, the painful way, which is why no one's gonna do it. It's not worth millions of dead Koreans just to get rid of him.

of course, to hear some people on this side of the ocean talk, they don't particularly care about the skoreans...

	14-09-2004 05:18									#134
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Well, I'm sure there are some nice Koreans. I haven't met any, but I'm sure there've got to be some.

	14-09-2004 05:20									#135
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Bastards.

I am hoping for Italy after this tour, plenty of billets for my sort of work. Unfortunelty once I let the detailer know of my willingness to go over there Bahrain becomes an unfortunate alternative. Though you do make alot of money living there.

	14-09-2004 05:20									#136
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quote: of course, to hear some people on this side of the ocean talk, they don't particularly care about the skoreans...

Apathy's better than the hatred many South Koreans seem to have for us.

	14-09-2004 05:20									#137
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you've never met me, the shame.

	14-09-2004 05:21									#138
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quote: Apathy's better than the hatred many South Koreans seem to have for us.

it's easy to ignore the love many others seem to have when all you get are the broadcasted hate.

of course, apathy also makes it easy to suggest things like war, since the people in question don't even factor.

	14-09-2004 05:50									#139
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I have seen both love and hate. My question is just how many of each are there. Sometimes it seems the haters outnumber the lovers.

	14-09-2004 05:58									#140
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of course it seems that way. an anecdote:

dear abby once asked her readers the question of, given the choice of having children again or not, would they have their kids? strangely enough the results of that highly unscientific poll showed that msot people would rather have not had their kids.
the problem with taking this as fact is that people who complain, people who hate, will almost invariably be noisier, louder, and more noticeable than those who do not.

when people call customer service, rarely is it to say a job well done--it's almost always saying how that company is bad and screwed them over.

it's no different in this case: you'll see a huge protest with claims of maybe a million against the us, when odds are it's about a hundred thousand, and the other nine hundred thousand were trying to get past the protest to go to their office. you'll hear about the people who beat up white tourists because they think the tourists are american, but you won't hear so much of the people who buy the tourists a meal, or offer a place to stay.

bad news travels. good news does not.

	14-09-2004 14:50									#141
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara quote: Originally posted by Ned the Chinese could advise Kim that it was time to go, and to grease his skids out of town. Kim may be just sane enough to take the offer -- as once did Marcos when the US offered him asylum. Man, you are so outta touch with reality. Kim is a cult leader. He won't go easily. He'll try and burn the Korean peninsula and everything in his reach as a monument to his divinity. Marcos took the U.S. offer because he had no choice. Within a very short period, his presidential palace was going to be stormed and he would have been ripped to shreds by angry mobs. There's only one way to get rid of Kim, the painful way, which is why no one's gonna do it. It's not worth millions of dead Koreans just to get rid of him.

It really all depends on just how persausive the Chinese are. True Marcos left because he almost had no choice. Kim has to be convinced that he has no choice as well.

	14-09-2004 15:04									#142
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so when will we get to see that showsown on TV?