25-09-2004 22:05									#121
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That's why I don't trust them.

	25-09-2004 22:07									#122
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Dunno if a former Mukhabarat hitman can qualify for Sainthood.

	25-09-2004 22:25									#123
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Yeah - there's just a handful of nasty people who are messing things up. That's why we cede control of four major cities to the enemy, and we got five more KIA today, over a year after "Mission Accomplished."

Thanks Michael-the-Small for bringing up one of the strawmen.

quote: And the ARVN folded up and went to **** in two more years after that. Unlike Vietnam, the whole world does have a vital economic interest in what happens in and around Iraq.

Yes Michael, killing the ARVN was one of the greatest successes of the liberal Democrat Congress who cut off military support to South Vietnam so that the average soldier had only few bullets to shoot when the NVA launched their final offensive. You should've seen a high fives that the likes of Ted Kennedy and George McGovern gave each other. John Kerry had a big party to celebrate as a last South Vietnamese copter to plunged into the sea. Even today, you sound overjoyed at the victory of the North Vietnamese as you kiss John Kerry butt and tell him that he's a great war hero for shooting his fellow soldiers in the back.

	25-09-2004 22:28									#124
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Dunno if a former Mukhabarat hitman can qualify for Sainthood.

Only with the current Pope.

	25-09-2004 22:31									#125
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Speaking of sucking you know what, it does appear that you and Kerry both would like to suck Chirac's member.

	25-09-2004 22:33									#126
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Where did that come from?

	25-09-2004 23:18									#127
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Ned's been day-dreaming by the sounds of it.

	25-09-2004 23:27									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Ned Thanks Michael-the-Small for bringing up one of the strawmen.

Hey, Gung-ho-cuz-I-don't-have-to-go, if you call losing control of four major cities to enemy forces a strawman, then you need your head examined.

If you call ongoing American KIAs a strawman, then I suggest you try that rhetoric out at their funerals and see how many teeth you leave with.

quote: Yes Michael, killing the ARVN was one of the greatest successes of the liberal Democrat Congress who cut off military support to South Vietnam so that the average soldier had only few bullets to shoot when the NVA launched their final offensive.

Bullshit - the ARVN was riddled with incompetence, cowardice, corruption, and enemy infiltrators from the outset, before the US even got involved. And the "liberal Democrat Congress" poured tens of billions down the RVN/ARVN sewers for over a decade. Most rational people realize at some point that enough is enough.

quote: You should've seen a high fives that the likes of Ted Kennedy and George McGovern gave each other. John Kerry had a big party to celebrate as a last South Vietnamese copter to plunged into the sea. Even today, you sound overjoyed at the victory of the North Vietnamese as you kiss John Kerry butt and tell him that he's a great war hero for shooting his fellow soldiers in the back.

Nice troll, but I won't tell you to eat me, since I don't take your trolls seriously.

	25-09-2004 23:28									#129
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Dunno if a former Mukhabarat hitman can qualify for Sainthood.

Look at the mideast. Look at what generally passes for leaders in the mideast. 'Nuf said.

	26-09-2004 00:21									#130
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Allawi is a US stooge. Good for Kerry.

	26-09-2004 01:13									#131
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Lay off the personal attacks. My uncle's record meant something. He impacted the war. He led a platoon of men who won battles, and took moderate/heavy casualities. I have no idea who I'm talking to? Are you the guy who works with the trash collecting company that picks up trash at my apartment?

How could your "Uncle" be in Iraq for 24 months when the USA hasn't even BEEN in Iraq for 24 months?

You just made that up.

What's wrong with garbage men? They earn their living and don't rely on a trust fund at least.

	26-09-2004 09:20									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Ned ... You should've seen a high fives that the likes of Ted Kennedy and George McGovern gave each other. John Kerry had a big party to celebrate as a last South Vietnamese copter to plunged into the sea. ...

Yesss. And I'm sure they drank the blood of Palestinian babies and crushed their bones into bread mix, too. Argh!

On a slightly more serious note, I find it interesting how quickly MtG is dismissed by some here, considering he's one of the few in our ranks who has actual military service and experience.

Gatekeeper

	26-09-2004 10:21									#133
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It looks like Kerry's message was received by his fellow travelors:

"Addressing the U.N. General Assembly in a largely empty room Friday, Allawi said terrorists were seeking to "destroy the aspirations of our people and to destroy the physical infrastructure of Iraq and to stop the economic life in Iraq and to create a state of tension, panic, instability." (Full story)"

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast...main/index.html

Empty room. Says it all.

	26-09-2004 10:27									#134
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I note your glee, MtG, at the fall of South Vietnam. Now you say we need to succeed in Iraq because of the OIL. This doesn't make sense, as we could withdraw tomorrow, let Zarqawi succeed, and his new al Qaeda regime would pump as much oil as it could so that Zarqawi could finance legions of true believers who would do their best to destroy the United States. The real reason we need to succeed is that Iraq is central to the war on terror.

	26-09-2004 10:31									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper Yesss. And I'm sure they drank the blood of Palestinian babies and crushed their bones into bread mix, too. Argh! On a slightly more serious note, I find it interesting how quickly MtG is dismissed by some here, considering he's one of the few in our ranks who has actual military service and experience. Gatekeeper

Not Palestinian babies. Ted Kennedy and his ultra liberal compatriots wail loudly every time a Palestinian is killed by an Israeli. They support any enemy of Israel or of the United States with total commitment.

	26-09-2004 10:37									#136
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Hey, Gung-ho-cuz-I-don't-have-to-go, if you call losing control of four major cities to enemy forces a strawman, then you need your head examined.

The "strawman," MtG, is that Bush said that everything was hunky-dory in Iraq when he gave that speech with the sign "Mission Accomplished" hanging in the background. That sign referred only to the military victory over Saddam's armed forces.

	26-09-2004 22:26									#137
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If Allawi is so happy with the state of Iraqi security, let him drive somewhere with Iraqi security around him and try to make a trip around the country sans heavy US escort- yeah, we would see how long that lasts

	27-09-2004 07:38									#138
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GePap, so you SUPPORT Kerry and his campaign staff trashing Allawi?

	27-09-2004 07:40									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper On a slightly more serious note, I find it interesting how quickly MtG is dismissed by some here, considering he's one of the few in our ranks who has actual military service and experience.

What are you talking about? I have successfully lead my men into battle against numerous civilizations, oft outnumbered.

	27-09-2004 10:27									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Your foot keeps going farther up your own rear-end. That must hurt

Must...resist... I can't...nooooo

	27-09-2004 10:28									#141
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Kerry's trashing of our allies, such as Musharraf and now Allawi, raises the concern of whether he can maintain the "Coalition of the Willing" if he becomes president.

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	27-09-2004 11:19									#142
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You mean the "fradulent coalition" (Kerry's words, not mine)?

	27-09-2004 11:21									#143
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten You mean the "fradulent coalition" (Kerry's words, not mine)?

Drake, imagine if you were Musharraf or another of the Coalition who have been spat upon by Kerry. Would you even listen to him if he called?

	27-09-2004 11:28									#144
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I'd listen to him, since he would be the president of the most powerful nation on Earth. I'm sure as hell not going to look more favorably upon him than I looked on Bush, though, which is what Kerry swears will happen.

	27-09-2004 11:34									#145
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Look at how the Veterans of Vietnam despise Kerry for what he said about them in '71. I suspect he will have a major problem with the Coalition if he becomes president because they too will despise him.

	27-09-2004 12:18									#146
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It's pretty pathetic that y'all are criticizing Kerry for not giving enough fellatios to thugs and dictators, and being too close to the democratic states that opposed the war. Your talking points have become a parody of themselves. It really says a lot about Republicans' contempt for democracy.

Anyways, not that I give a **** about Musharraf's opinion on the matter, but you might be interested that WaPo just interviewed him:

quote: Do you think the war in Iraq was a good idea, and how do you think it has affected the area? I think it has complicated the situation in the Islamic world. It has increased the opposition to the U.S. in the Islamic world.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/w...anguage=printer

	27-09-2004 12:55									#147
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo It's pretty pathetic that y'all are criticizing Kerry for not giving enough fellatios to thugs and dictators, and being too close to the democratic states that opposed the war. Your talking points have become a parody of themselves. It really says a lot about Republicans' contempt for democracy.

Most of the states in what Kerry has dubbed the "fradulent coaltion" are democracies and it includes America's best and most trustworthy allies, states like the UK, Australia and Japan. So much for your "point"...

	27-09-2004 13:06									#148
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I have no idea what you're referring to. You and Ned just brought up Musharraf and Allawi for apparantly no reason, and were whining that Kerry didn't bend over for them.

Pakistani troops aren't in Iraq last time I checked, and straight from the horse's mouth in the aforementioned article, Musharraf doesn't plan on sending troops there anytime soon. So much for your "point"....

	27-09-2004 13:09									#149
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quote: You and Ned just brought up Musharraf and Allawi for apparantly no reason, and were whining that Kerry didn't bend over for them.

I didn't bring up either...

	27-09-2004 13:11									#150
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Well, Ned did. And you connected Musharraf to the "fraudulent coaltion."