30-12-2004 05:55									#151
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Hmm - good poimnt. I'll test it in the simulator.

In the meantime, though, I'd plan on getting that longstrider there ASAP to stop Morgan getting techs (I'll also test in the sim whether our probe stops Morgan filching techs from Zak.

(I seem to recall in another game that my having a probe in a pactmate's base didn't stop the enemy from pounding the crap out of that base - it wasn't techsteal, but straighht warfare. The base was captured, and my probe was still sitting there in a streetside cafe having a fag. Next turn I mind controlled the base from under the noses of the faction capturing it)

	01-01-2005 01:48									#152
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Looking down on Monitoring Station (about to become Fort Superiority!!)

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	02-01-2005 13:22									#154
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Well done with the invasion, well conducted campaign!

Hmmm.. Why did we force him to give us Budishii Dvor? I thought we were after Monitoring Station or Climactic Research?

	02-01-2005 17:22									#155
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We couldn't get Monitoring Station from him despite our best efforts (couldn't buy it with energy, baseswap is forbidden and he wouldn't take tech either - extortion did not work as well) - we decided to try to extort it from him at a more suitable date, e.g. by revendetta'ing Zak and then having him resubmit to us. Priority with the declaration of war changed from MonStat to getting our guys to Morganland ASAP.

	02-01-2005 17:53									#156
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Ah I see

	02-01-2005 20:43									#157
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Plus, we rushed the GT at Arcadia university, leaving ten minerals to carry forward. Next turn we'll rush a colony pod (that will also alleviate the hunger problems at that base too) and move it into Maniac's sugegsted site - that will strip MonStat of the 2 boreholes, so maybe we don't even need it transferred to our control

It's a bit of a funny map, though (a bit like the old east and west pakistan before Bangladesh got created) - and it will get worse when Lal plops his colony pod where it's heading - that'll create a PK enclave in Arcadia's northeast corner.

	02-01-2005 20:48									#158
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Am I being paranoid if I fear for the safety of the GT cruiser btw? Did the Morgans continue with their Gator east to the Arcadia shoreline or was it that Gator which ruthlessly brainwashed the hunter?

	02-01-2005 21:07									#159
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That's the one that got the Hunter

The GT cruiser is earmarked for convoy duty with the Mercury - strength in numbers and all that

Of course, Morgan will prolly tag team the Hunter with a 'Gator - thank goodness for the GT's synthmetal armor and higher morale (the Hunter redux was to "Very green" when the brainwashed crew went gaga and got replaced by Morgan rookies)

	02-01-2005 21:56									#160
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie It's a bit of a funny map, though (a bit like the old east and west pakistan before Bangladesh got created) - and it will get worse when Lal plops his colony pod where it's heading - that'll create a PK enclave in Arcadia's northeast corner.

Northern Arcadia is completely divided between Lal's pactmates the University and us. So will he build a base there? Is it possible that once the CP reaches its location, the AI realizes "F*ck, what am I doing here?" and head all the way back to his territory?

	02-01-2005 22:16									#161
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I wonder if you can build a base in a submissive's territory? Lal seemes to be just ignoring Zak's boundaries when he gave his "goto orders" to his colony pods (or maybe he wasa going to turn over control to Zak to help him grow??? Could the AI be that clever?)

	02-01-2005 22:21									#162
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Should we sell the Creche at Fort Liberty- it's not needed now and is costing us 1 ec per turn.

Or leave it in place for the popboom that's coming?

	02-01-2005 22:30									#163
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quote: Originally posted by Googlie Should we sell the Creche at Fort Liberty- it's not needed now and is costing us 1 ec per turn. Or leave it in place for the popboom that's coming?

I say we sell it for quick cash. We could use it to upgrade a rover to a skirmisher, build or amphibious units, or something There's a war going on dangit, let the children play in the abandoned barracks or something.

Btw should we get together for a live chat in the command center? Seems like a few of us are online.

	02-01-2005 22:36									#164
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Every creche is worth gold in my opinion. Even if won't popboom in the next decade due to the war, it'd be inefficient having to rebuild the creche when we are ready. The creche only costs 1 credit per year, it also fights inefficiency - already gaining back its upkeep costs, and we'd only get 25 credits from scrapping it.

	02-01-2005 23:42									#165
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Don't sell buildings, unless they are obsolete. Period.

	02-01-2005 23:45									#166
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I'd be in favor of a visit to the chat room

	02-01-2005 23:49									#167
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I'm in the chat room now. All alone ...
And I'll concede that I am out-voted on the creche-issue, though you'll have to explain to our troops why we can't afford to buy them those new xeno-leather boots.

	02-01-2005 23:50									#168
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Snoddasmannen and I are there now

	03-01-2005 00:09									#169
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I'll be there shortly, although I doubt my expertise will be of much value in this case.

	10-01-2005 02:30									#170
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Should we next turn place one or two impact rovers in the Monitoring Station base radius apparently moving west, to make it look like we're returning to our homelands? Or instead hide our military units for the Morganite's eyes as much as possible?

	10-01-2005 02:41									#171
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If we can place it without slowing down the invasion, sure. Confusing others is always a good thing to do.

	10-01-2005 03:34									#172
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac Should we next turn place one or two impact rovers in the Monitoring Station base radius apparently moving west, to make it look like we're returning to our homelands? Or instead hide our military units for the Morganite's eyes as much as possible?

No, that's brilliant thinking - let them think we're heading home for drone control duties They have seen two rovers in action before, let them think that's all we have.

	10-01-2005 09:41									#173
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Interesting Possibility:

Testing teh AI diplomacy options:

If we ask Zak for MonStat by threatening to withdraw pact, he refuses.

if we ask him to sell, he'll ask for more credits than we have (but will sell)

If we first sell him a tech (say Adapt Econ), then ask for Monstat and offer cash, he'll sell for an amount we can afford!!!)

I say go for it. Buying a 7 pop base for 215 ec's (or thereabouts) is worth far more than building a CP and moving it adjacent (plus we can then move the CP to the Nexus)

	10-01-2005 13:44									#174
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Yes, go for it.