27-10-2004 19:22									#1
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http://www.apple.com/ipodphoto/

While $499 is a bit too much for me, is there any chance this will make the non color iPods go down in price?

	27-10-2004 19:24									#2
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No, they just recently went down in price.

$499 is totally ridiculous...that's half the price of an iMac, and is the price of an entry-level PC.

	27-10-2004 19:38									#3
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Display

* 2-inch (diagonal) transflective, 65,536-color liquid crystal display with white LED backlight
* 220 x 176 pixel resolution, 0.18-mm dot pitch

	27-10-2004 19:38									#4
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and for a device that is built to hold photos, include a card reader, and not have that be an attachment for another bundle of monies....

	27-10-2004 19:41									#5
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Honestly...I can't figure out who would really want to view photos on a 2", 65K color screen.

	28-10-2004 03:52									#6
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Oh well.. I was just hoping it'd cut the prices on the 4G stuff... never mind .

	28-10-2004 03:54									#7
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Of course, now Agathon is going to claim that Apple invented color screens

	28-10-2004 04:28									#8
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Yes, you need color so that you can see all of the color in the music.

	28-10-2004 04:35									#9
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Wait... so the iPod Photo just shows things in color, like photographs? It doesn't actually TAKE color photographs? For $499?

	28-10-2004 04:45									#10
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On the plus side, this ...erm... innovation now allows people to make the iPod not just their skull-cracking mp3 player, but also their 40-60G PPP*. That's gotta be worth something.

*Personal Porn Pad

	28-10-2004 05:18									#11
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Et pourtant, when it comes to porn, the bigger the better...

	28-10-2004 05:28									#12
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quote: For $499?

Yep, that's the MOST absurd part it. I remember Apple people saying the best thing about the iPod is that it only tries to do one thing well and only one thing. With this iPod, it seems that perhaps they are abandoning that view.

	28-10-2004 05:30									#13
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Oh, the funniest thing is that on iPod forums there are some who are like "What a waste of money" while you have the fanboys (Mr Nice Guy? ) saying... oooh, oooh... I can't wait to waste my money .

	28-10-2004 05:38									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: For $499? Yep, that's the MOST absurd part it. I remember Apple people saying the best thing about the iPod is that it only tries to do one thing well and only one thing. With this iPod, it seems that perhaps they are abandoning that view.

That's always been a false view of theirs. It's BS marketing.

The iPod comes with solitaire, a todo list, contacts, etc.

	28-10-2004 06:09									#15
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quote: The iPod comes with solitaire, a todo list, contacts, etc.

So its also a PDA lite?

	28-10-2004 06:11									#16
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Who needs a to do list or contacts on their Ipod! That's what you stick on a cell phone.

	28-10-2004 06:23									#17
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Hey... just found out that Buy.com has iPod 4G (the non color ones) [20GB] for $269.99.

Looks good .

	28-10-2004 06:32									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Who needs a to do list or contacts on their Ipod! That's what you stick on a cell phone.

What if you don't have a cell phone, or what if you hate cell phones?

The colour ipod is for digital photo junkies, others need not apply. On the other hand, people said the original ipod would never sell, and that nobody would buy an ipod mini for $250. I guess they're pretty quiet right now.

Still, 92% of the hard drive based player market. Creative must be eating their hearts out.

	28-10-2004 07:17									#19
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They could be more productive by sticking the 60 GB drive on a regular greyscale iPod. That'd sell much better.

	28-10-2004 07:43									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon What if you don't have a cell phone, or what if you hate cell phones? The colour ipod is for digital photo junkies, others need not apply. On the other hand, people said the original ipod would never sell, and that nobody would buy an ipod mini for $250. I guess they're pretty quiet right now. Still, 92% of the hard drive based player market. Creative must be eating their hearts out.

Sophistry From you AGAIN!

	28-10-2004 07:51									#21
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HOW MUCH!??!?!?!?! My phone does most of that for circa £100 (plus is actually a phone too... though I got it free with contract)! You're better off buying said phone, or a digital camera, and then a Sony HD Walkman, and you'll have change from $500! What a ridiculous idea .

	28-10-2004 08:43									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon What if you don't have a cell phone, or what if you hate cell phones? The colour ipod is for digital photo junkies

Digital photo junkies would be disgusted with the 65K color limitation. That's ridiculous.

quote: Still, 92% of the hard drive based player market. Creative must be eating their hearts out.

Creative has huge supply problems right now. If you go to the local store, you'll probably notice they don't have any, or perhaps a few, Zen Touches.

The problem is they're selling too fast, and they don't have Apple's production capacity for consumer devices.

	28-10-2004 09:02									#23
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the only thing that's new about this is that apple is doing it. mp3 player and photo things have been around a while.

samsung's had a mp3/photo/phone/camera for a while now, too.

	28-10-2004 09:29									#24
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quote: Creative has huge supply problems right now. If you go to the local store, you'll probably notice they don't have any, or perhaps a few, Zen Touches. The problem is they're selling too fast, and they don't have Apple's production capacity for consumer devices.

Utter drivel.

Apple can't keep up with demand - if the others are lamer than Apple at getting products to ship, they must really suck. The others have had years to do something and can't seem to get it right.

I'd buy the 60gig photopod if I had the money. Purely for the size. I imagine it might fit about half my CD collection on it. Probably not though...

quote: They could be more productive by sticking the 60 GB drive on a regular greyscale iPod. That'd sell much better.

I reckon they will in time. Supply is an issue though. Wait six months and these will be $100 less. Once the regular 20G ipod hits about $220 in price the hordes will start buying them.

	28-10-2004 09:32									#25
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quote: I'd buy the 60gig photopod if I had the money

And that's the issue, isn't it?

I think I'll get the $269 iPod+HP at buy.com . That price is the list price of the Zen Touch (which is $30 cheaper on buy.com).

	28-10-2004 09:32									#26
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quote: Once the regular 20G ipod hits about $220 in price the hordes will start buying them.

I don't see that happening... Apple doesn't like going that low for the latest generation iPod (the Photopod isn't considered 5G, AFAIK).

	28-10-2004 09:51									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I'd buy the 60gig photopod if I had the money. Purely for the size. I imagine it might fit about half my CD collection on it. Probably not though...

How big is your CD collection??

	28-10-2004 09:53									#28
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Apparenly bigger than mine .

Btw, just purchased a 4G 20 GB iPod + HP for $269. Should be coming in the mail within the next week... I took free shipping. Don't need it at this second .

	28-10-2004 10:12									#29
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quote: Btw, just purchased a 4G 20 GB iPod + HP for $269. Should be coming in the mail within the next week... I took free shipping. Don't need it at this second.

Your commie credentials are complete.

I never doubted you.

quote: How big is your CD collection??

Well into the thousands. I'm pretty sure I was getting close to a thousand. A quick count tells me I have about 450 here, and half of my collection is back in NZ. I also inherited most of my Dad's CDs after he died. He had more than me. I guess I must be closer to 2000 than 1500. By far the most of them are classical. I sold most of my rock CDs back in 1998, and I only have the stuff I really like (Zeppelin, Floyd, Who, Stones, etc.).

40 gigs is supposed to be 10,000 songs at 128kbps. Just say that the average album has about 12 songs on it.

I guess I'd be able to fit about 1250 CDs worth onto a 60 gig ipod. I would like a higher bitrate, but I don't need to rip all 5 (or 6) versions of Bartók's Concerto for Orchestra that I have, so I might get most of it on.

80 gigs would definitely hit the spot though.

	28-10-2004 10:14									#30
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quote: Your commie credentials are complete.

I looked for the best deal on an iPod.... that's very capitalist of me .