03-11-2004 11:41									#421
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quote: Originally posted by joncha There are something like 250,000 provisional ballots that will not be counted for another 11 days. The contention is that they are overwhelmingly democratic votes.

Of course, because they're felons and stuff. Felons always vote Democrat.

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quote: Originally posted by joncha There are something like 250,000 provisional ballots that will not be counted for another 11 days. The contention is that they are overwhelmingly democratic votes.

Yes but are all of them valid? Will they be thrown out?

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quote: Originally posted by Lul Thyme The only close states left are Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada and Iowa. (except Hawaii which I dont know about)...

Hawaii aint close. It's Kerry.

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My sentiment is exactly the same as Agathon. I feel alienated.
This election is the SCREW YOU message to the world!

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	03-11-2004 11:43									#425
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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www Yes but are all of them valid? Will they be thrown out?

That's what we won't know for another 11 days (at least).

	03-11-2004 11:45									#426
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quote: Originally posted by joncha There are something like 250,000 provisional ballots that will not be counted for another 11 days. The contention is that they are overwhelmingly democratic votes.

Wow. That's one long election day.

	03-11-2004 11:45									#427
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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar Hawaii aint close. It's Kerry.

Yeah I figured it out and edited it a few seconds later but this thread is on fire


So although it looks Ohio will go to Bush and he wins, if we consider that provisionnal ballot thing, and Ohio goes to Kerry , then bush would need Iowa Nevada and Wisconsin to win.
Within an hour or so well see how big the Bush lead is on Kerry in Ohio.
I think even 50K would be hard to catch up.

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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither That looks just about right to become the eleventh province.

OOOOOH NO...you guys are NOT taking Washington DC AGAIN!

	03-11-2004 11:46									#429
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quote: Originally posted by Atahualpa This is the SCREW YOU message to the world!

Hey, watch it buddy.

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That's it. I gotta work tomorrow.

****ers. I just can't take four more years of this ****. I just can't. Four more years of this anti-intellectual bullshit. It gives me hives.

	03-11-2004 11:48									#431
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Hawaii will go Democrat they always do.

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Bush wins Nevada! Ohio doesn't matter jack!

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quote: Originally posted by Guynemer That's it. I gotta work tomorrow. ****ers. I just can't take four more years of this ****. I just can't. Four more years of this anti-intellectual bullshit. It gives me hives.

you are going to work, because a Bush win makes you sick?

	03-11-2004 11:49									#434
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Actually even with Nevada, Iowa and NM, without Ohio Bush loses...

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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Hey, watch it buddy.

It was a projection of how the world would think about this election...

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MSNBC is showing Bush ahead in Nevada by 2k votes but with tens of thousands of absentee ballot still to count. Most of them from Clark County which is more liberal then the rest of the state.

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Bush is ahead in Nevada now.

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Reminds me of good old Maddox.

You've got some issue's there if ya get worked up over an election like that. You voted, fine, you lost. Its done. Do something more next time to help your guy win.

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quote: California gave Kerry a very solid 55 electoral votes, the most in the nation, by a big margin.

4%?

California's in play.

	03-11-2004 11:52									#440
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In any case Although the Bush lead in Ohio is down to 100K , were now at 93 % precinct reported.
Notice Bush is back at 52% popular vote nationwide.
And that there is about 100 Million vote counted up to now, which was one of the commonly heard estimate, but it was vastly under estimated...

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quote: Originally posted by imacowmoo 3-:-o Reminds me of good old Maddox. You've got some issue's there if ya get worked up over an election like that. You voted, fine, you lost. Its done. Do something more next time to help your guy win.

I agree.

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quote: Originally posted by Lul Thyme Actually even with Nevada, Iowa and NM, without Ohio Bush loses...

Nveda and Iowa remain to close to call, New Mexico is to Bush. Ohio is likely Bush but there are lots of ballots still to go.

	03-11-2004 11:53									#443
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CNN has just officially declared Ohio "too close to call"

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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk OOOOOH NO...you guys are NOT taking Washington DC AGAIN!

We'll throw in a roll of hockey tape.

	03-11-2004 11:53									#445
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Ohio is now officially too close to call for CNN


beaten it seems

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quote: Originally posted by imacowmoo 3-:-o You've got some issue's there if ya get worked up over an election like that.

So says the guy who's spent two pages shouting OMG!!!!111!!! DASHAL LOST!!!!!!111!!11!!1!!

Are you honestly accussing someone of getting to worked up?

	03-11-2004 11:56									#447
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Democrats have a lot to think about. They continue to lose ground nationally. Republicans have controlled Congress for 12 years. (With a short hiatus due to Senator Jeffers going Independent.) Republican Congressional margins are increasinng. An unpopular, inarticulate president is re-elected over a smooth and eloguent Democrat candidate. In fact, no Democrat presidential candidate has won even 50% of the vote since Carter in '76. Carter was also the last Democrat to sweep the South. (Note please that Clinton, like Carter, was also a Southern Democrat.)

Why are the Democrats increasingly becoming a minority party?

The consensus view among the talking heads is that they are on the wrong side of the social values equation. Since Reagan, social conservatives, regardless of economic status, are increasingly voting Republican. There seems no way for the Democrats ever to reverse this trend until and unless they move once again to America's social values center.

	03-11-2004 11:57									#448
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Kerry retakes the lead in Nevada (by 400 votes)

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Kerry now up by 400 votes in Nevada. It's a real hand ringer in Nevada.

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Iowa, Nevada and Wisconsin and MAYBE Ohio will remain within recounting range.
To win , Bush needs either Ohio, or all the other 3.