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The Mad Monk is offline The Mad Monk
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Except that the US army sucks at urban warfare.


Except that we have all the farmland, forests, water, and mineral wealth, and more than a little of the power generation capacity.

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All the water?

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Are you going to drink from Lake Michigan?

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Are you in Canada, or Jesusland?

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Nevermind. Bad question.

However, Canada is certainly not short on fresh water, or forests, or minerals, or farmland, or power generation capacity.

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Are you going to drink from Lake Michigan?


Where does it get the fresh water from?

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Since I have nothing better to do with this time, I drew a crappier version of "Redistrict This".


Funny... Illinois looks like democratic Florida here...
Compare the shapes...
it's like two continents once united that drift away

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You guys think small. Make each state indep, and you'll be one frikken huge voting bloc in the UNGA.

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Even better, make each county independant

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I'd be up for joining the Commonwealth, at any rate.

-Arrian


Late you regret the folly you've done over 200 years ago. Now go and get all the tea back out of the water!

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Well, I was thinking of more of a takeover, actually...



Hey, Americans supposedly love the Queen, and this way we could have her. I'm sure the Brits would even send her over and let us keep her. My mother would be so pleased.

-Arrian

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Nevermind. Bad question.

However, Canada is certainly not short on fresh water, or forests, or minerals, or farmland, or power generation capacity.


I'm assuming they're pulling a straight seccession, not the Canada / Jesusland dealie.

...

I mean, do you really want a sudden influx of 130+ million people who are likely still to the right of most Canadians, with American arrogence and aggressiveness, to boot?

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Where does it get the fresh water from?

Water leprachauns, they're closely related to the Electric leprachauns Californians think electricty comes from. No one has the heart to tell them electricity comes from electrical power plants.

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Hehe, even CNN is talking 'bout these secession talks.

On older woman who got interviewed about Bush's reelection:
"Well, I'm not moving but I'm sure cursing alot."

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and don't forget the natural gas leprachauns, though I suppose they're not as well known down in SoCal.

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Except that we have all the farmland, forests, water, and mineral wealth, and more than a little of the power generation capacity.



We can buy our food, resources and everything from other places, like, well Canada. As for the electricity, we can build new plants if we need. Finally, as for water-well, that is where red states are screwed anyways. A place like NYC gets its water form renewable rainfall. The plains and mountains get most of if from non-replinishable aquifers.

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I don't know if you have seen this map.

Red/blue state map adjusted for population density.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn...tecartlarge.png

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There never will be seccession. You're in this union 'til the end of time. Right or wrong.
Furthermore, I will personally kill the first SOB that tries to lead and implement it.

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I hope I'm not the only one who hates those stupid ****ing population density maps. HURR WE CAN MAKE A POINT OF SORTS BY MUTILATING EVERYONE'S SENSE OF PROPER GEOGRAPHY HURR

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Who cares what you think? You're Finnish.

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Florida looks funky.

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I don't see how Canada would help you, you would just involve them in a short civil war, and after we are done detroying the Blue states, should take about a week, we will have conquered Canada the next day.

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I don't see how Canada would help you, you would just involve them in a short civil war, and after we are done detroying the Blue states, should take about a week, we will have conquered Canada the next day.



Not possible-- The country is far too big



--- Oh and that population density style map is hilarious. Some of the midwest states seem to be squeezed into tiny little boxes

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I don't see how Canada would help you, you would just involve them in a short civil war, and after we are done detroying the Blue states, should take about a week, we will have conquered Canada the next day.


Yeah because last time when you guys tried to take on the North you did so well.

Oh wait...

You know there's a reason why we won the Civil War the first time.

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I don't know if you have seen this map.

Red/blue state map adjusted for population density.

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn...tecartlarge.png


The map is a grossly innacurate portrayel of relative population sizes of the states. Look how large Minnesota and Wisconsin seem to be in comparison with California, New York and Texas all three of which have many times the population of either wisconsin or minneosta.

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If there is a civil war, I am stuck on the redneck side of Minnesota.

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Okay, two days after



Depends . .. what is the top speed of and M1A1 Abrams ?-- Include refuelling stops now. I can't see there being enough paratroopers to occupy even a significant fraction of the country so the big limitation is on how fast the American troops can drive. You should plan on avoiding places like Calgary and Toronto in the morning since rush hour can really slow you down.

Also while Canadians don't have handguns like the Americans, a LOT of people have rifles and are frequent hunters. Ground troofs could face harssing sniper fire.


Oh Canadian ground forces ?? . . . well they would capitulate immediately when our tank wouldn't start.

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