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Sprayber is offline Sprayber

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Oct 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by Pekka
Lot of Euro hating going on... makes me think, is it because of inferiority complex or penis issue?


you only got Euro hating out of this thread? Surely they haven't got to you to

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The election result was the American people raising a middle finger to the rest of the World




Wrong finger

Sprayber is offline Sprayber

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wow drake, now your so cool


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Nov 2001
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Originally posted by Berzerker
And this interference was crooked politicians using the UN to screw the US and help Saddam defeat the sanctions.

And ca. 83% of the world's public opinion.

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The French were mad about losing it's colony in Vietnam so we got drawn into that mess

Bullcrap. We lost our colony fair and square to Communist nationalists. The US barged in the mess, for fear of the Communists getting the upper hand in the power transition.

Sir Ralph is offline Sir Ralph
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We got deprived of our colonies (not that we had very much anyway) as result of our world wars. Seeing the trouble the other powers had with their former colonies, and still have, I can't say, that this was a bad thing.

Agathon is offline Agathon
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Dec 2002
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Anyone for a new campaign.

It's called "Pelt the Terrorist Appeasers".

Right now all our governments will try to lick Bush's ass. They'll have trouble because Tony Blair's big mouth is covering most of it, but they will still try. Of course the fact that only their constituents in persistent vegetative states won't be disgusted won't stop them.

I suggest that as good citizens we pelt any of our leaders with eggs and rotten fruit on their return if they so much as meet with Bush.

The Australians used to do this sort of thing when Fraser was in charge.

Sir Ralph is offline Sir Ralph
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The savages living in East Germany have a nice record in pelting leaders with rotten fruit, eggs and other lovely things. Helmut Kohl got to feel some eggs, and bravely stormed forth, attacking his offenders until he was stopped by his own bodyguards. Fischer was thrown with color bags, and as far as I remember, Schröder got flung with some kitchen slops recently too, but chickened out. Go East Germans, I'd say.

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Yeah, those sods need to be put in their place.

I wish I was at home. Every time the PM made a conciliatory comment about Bush I would send her a sheet of paper with

"Stop Appeasing Fascists, Beeattchh!!!"

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Feb 2001
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Influence is not the same thing, but yes, the decision rests with us.

Yes, you can decide which actions you will take, if that's what you mean, but you should consider the consequences before you act, and we're not convinced that you have been doing that lately. Of course, you don't technically need to convince us either, but you can't expect us to trust you and support you if you don't.

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And I'm not worried about y'all attacking us, you can't even get it together to stop genocide in your own backyard.

True. And various US governments have been actively aiding more than a few brutal dictatorships both in your own backyard and lots of other backyards on more than a few occasions, thus being indirectly responsible for thousands - if not millions - of deaths and disappearances...

Your point being?

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As for the US deciding your fate, all I can do is paraphrase OBL to refute that - there's a reason we didn't attack Sweden. Did the US decide Sweden's fate?

No, but I was talking about Iraq...

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And one more thing, the reason the US keeps getting into these messes is because we are running around a dysfunctional world left behind by European colonialism.

If we're going to argue about who's to blame for stuff that happened hundreds of years ago, we can keep going right up to the point where we end up cursing Adam and Eve for ever having children. But I don't see anything good coming out of that, so I won't be going down that road.

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And we became the superpower, i.e., global cop, because we led the way against the commies.

How can there be a global cop if there is no global law?
These days you look increasingly more like a global bully.

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I'm sure quite a few 10's of millions are happy the US "decided" their fate.

So am I, but that won't appease the 10's of millions are not happy.

Sprayber is offline Sprayber

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I'm beginning to think that John Kerry is taking this easier than anyone here is.

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Originally posted by Spiffor

And ca. 83% of the world's public opinion.


Bullcrap. We lost our colony fair and square to Communist nationalists. The US barged in the mess, for fear of the Communists getting the upper hand in the power transition.


How many of those people know major European powers were taking bribes from Saddam to subvert the sanctions? And how is it bullcrap? France lost Vietnam which is what I said and the US went in. The excuse was the spread of communism but virtually all wars are fought over resources and the French were exploiting resources in Vietnam and were afraid they'd get booted out all together and wanted our help. The mess was created by French colonialism...

Drake Tungsten is offline Drake Tungsten
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Oct 2001
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I'm beginning to think that John Kerry is taking this easier than anyone here is.


Well, Kerry is a senator with a safe seat married to a billionaire heiress...

Sprayber is offline Sprayber

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Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
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I'm beginning to think that John Kerry is taking this easier than anyone here is.


Well, Kerry is a senator with a safe seat married to a billionaire heiress...


Deeply intuned to the common man as well

Drake Tungsten is offline Drake Tungsten
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Of course.

Sir Ralph is offline Sir Ralph
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How many of those people know major European powers were taking bribes from Saddam to subvert the sanctions?


Since the sane part of the world population tends not to watch FOX, I doubt that this wisdom is widespread. But then, we have Apolyton to enlighten us.

VetLegion is offline VetLegion
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Regarding the original poster's question;

I Croatia, the reaction, from what I have read, is mostly negative. Fahrenheit 911 and other antiamerican stuff sell pretty well here, so it's no surprise.

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I'm beginning to think that John Kerry is taking this easier than anyone here is.


Yeah. I think he's just fine about it. What a ****er?

SpencerH is offline SpencerH
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Berz seems to be handling things pretty well so let me just add this one small point.

Most of the EU crowd whine about american intervention without UN (i.e. european) approval. Just remember that if America had decided to remain neutral toward the Nazi's (and there was a huge movement for that to happen), all you ****ing anti-america eurocoms would be speaking german.

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Most of the EU crowd whine about american intervention without UN (i.e. european) approval. Just remember...
The correct example to bring up at this point is Kosovo which proved the UN isn't needed for interventions against rogue regimes.

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Berz seems to be handling things pretty well so let me just add this one small point.

Most of the EU crowd whine about american intervention without UN (i.e. european) approval. Just remember that if America had decided to remain neutral toward the Nazi's (and there was a huge movement for that to happen), all you ****ing anti-america eurocoms would be speaking german.


Actually, the US did remain neutral towards the nazis until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and the German U-boats were attacking ships virtually inside American harbors...

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all you ****ing anti-america eurocoms would be speaking german.


Well, Americans tend to think Norwegian sounds like German anyway, so what the heck...

Sir Ralph is offline Sir Ralph
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Bull. If it wasn't for us, nearly everyone of you would be speaking Latin today.

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More than 90% of Serbs are happy because of Bush's re-election for various reasons (champion in the war on terror, staunch supporter of democracy), but the main reason probably is the general feeling that the current administration has treated us fairly.

The Clinton administration, especially Madeleine Albright who spent her childhood in Belgrade (traitor) was perceived as an enemy of Serbia, particularly because of the bombing. There was fear among the populace a new Democrat administration would resume the course of the Clinton administration and this fear was emphasised by the rumours the key architect of the Dayton Accord (Richard Holbrooke) might become the next Secretary of State.


Interesting. I heard that Russia and Israel supported Bush too, but that's pretty much it. So if Serbia is so pro-Bush, will y'all be sending troops to help out in Iraq?

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Bull. If it wasn't for us, nearly everyone of you would be speaking Latin today.


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Bull. If it wasn't for us, nearly everyone of you would be speaking Latin today.

Or French.

Thank you, noble Germans.

SpencerH is offline SpencerH
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The correct example to bring up at this point is Kosovo which proved the UN isn't needed for interventions against rogue regimes.


But of course that was OK cos the europeans said it was.

Pekka is offline Pekka
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Sprayber, it is YOUR fault that the genocide is going on in Rwnada. It is your PERSONAL fault that oveer 500 000 Iraqis are dead, YOUR tax dollars PAID for it. It is your fault that Japan is in mental **** up state. It is your fault, that Elvis died. It is your fault, that everything that is in this world and is wrong, well it is your fault.

how does that statement sound? Silly? Of course it is silly. What? You got out of US BAshing from that?
too bad.

Answers to questions you disagree with should never be raised again, OK fine. Hears another tear for you because I'll keep doing it. And you'd be surprised how much I defend your ass in here in real life. SO no, I'm not a euro doing the same thing back to you. So stop calling yourselves the pragmatic ones, beucase you're not.
I should be personally mad that your country hasn't done anything for my country, and anything for me, because I have done much for you. Pretty silly eh?

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Bull. If it wasn't for us, nearly everyone of you would be speaking Latin today.


Dont forget the contributions of the Huns.

In any case, given the huge number of latin-root words in English, French, Spanish, and of course, Italien. One might make the argument that Europe does speak Latin (more than anything else).

laurentius is offline laurentius
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Bull. If it wasn't for us, nearly everyone of you would be speaking Latin today.


And I will never forgive you that!! Now we have to speak english

Pekka is offline Pekka
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yeah and if we didn't invent letters, we'd be still drawing them pictures to the walls of some caves.

 
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