07-11-2004 22:28									#61
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten And Ted... I know converts are the most extreme in their views, but you're just embarassing yourself now.

	07-11-2004 22:28									#62
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Am I paranoid to think I could be stung by a bee? Acknowledging a possibility is not the same thing as saying a thing is happening or will happen. I'm sorry if that's too simple a concept for you.

When did I say I was talking about you? God knows there's more than enough paranoid folks here to put into doubt the subject (or subjects, more likely) of my statement.

	07-11-2004 22:29									#63
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Sorry I was being logical.

It doesn't seem that way reading this...

quote: Today, religious nutbags are in control of two branches of government, and their allies control the third (and they mean to take that too). While I expect them to abide by our laws, I at least acknowledge the possiblity that they won't.

I didn't think you wore a tinfoil cap

	07-11-2004 22:29									#64
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I feel ya, Spray...

	07-11-2004 22:30									#65
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten When did I say I was talking about you?

You got me.

	07-11-2004 22:35									#66
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Am I paranoid to think I could be stung by a bee? Acknowledging a possibility is not the same thing as saying a thing is happening or will happen. I'm sorry if that's too simple a concept for you.

Yes, if bees are few and far between.

	07-11-2004 22:39									#67
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk Yes, if bees are few and far between.

No. I'm only paranoid if I think I will be stung by a be. Even if bees are few and far between, there is still a mathematical possiblity to be stung by one, unless there are no bees what so ever.

It's the same with acknowleding the possibility of a coup d'etat. I don't think it will happen. But I at least realize there is a possibility of it actually happening, just like it's possible to flip a coin 100 times and get all heads.

	07-11-2004 22:40									#68
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I feel despair, that this man would kill himself over an election result.

Where is his family? Where are the people who love this young man who care for him deeply?

Such a waste. I'm only 2 years younger, now he has nothing more he can contribute.

Hell, if I were to commit suicide over the loss of the Conservatives in an election, I'd be the fool, and no one would be mourning me.

This is just sad. What's his family going to think?

	07-11-2004 22:45									#69
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A lot of people felt this was the most important election of their life time. It was going to decide the future of America. Either America was going to turn it's back on the forces of darkness and evil or embrace them. A lot of people are despondant that the forces of Mammon and Baalzebub won.

	07-11-2004 22:49									#70
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Astaroth gets no respect...

	07-11-2004 22:53									#71
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She's a Democrat.

	07-11-2004 23:01									#72
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara A lot of people felt this was the most important election of their life time. It was going to decide the future of America. Either America was going to turn it's back on the forces of darkness and evil or embrace them. A lot of people are despondant that the forces of Mammon and Baalzebub won.

As much as I followed the elections, there were so many more important things in my life going on to even contemplate suicide or moving because a certain person won or lost an election. I suppose for those who have nothing else in their life worth thinking about the election would take on these mammoth perportations. Either that or their lives are so ****ed up that the election was the only thing that made any real sense to them.

Either way, I feel sorry for them.

	07-11-2004 23:12									#73
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara A lot of people are despondant that the forces of Mammon and Baalzebub won.

Mammon nad Baalzebub won???? I though Kerry got beat?

	07-11-2004 23:14									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Mammon nad Baalzebub won???? I though Kerry got beat?

Edwards had to be Mammon. He just looks like a Mammon kind of guy.

So that makes KErry Baalzebub.

	07-11-2004 23:51									#75
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara No there isn't. Thee's no guarantee whatsoever that there will ever be another election in the United States. There probably will, but there is a tiny possibility that there won't be.

Not at all. Why would Bush & Co. suspend elections when they're able to win them?

	08-11-2004 01:19									#76
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I might commit suicide, but for other reasons. Even though I'm passionately anti-Bush, his being in office doesn't negatively affect me on a personal level. It's more like a soap opera and Bush is a character I hate and want to die.

I understand this guy's frustration, but disagree over his method. There were obviously other issues going on here. And it's really too bad they weren't addressed.

	08-11-2004 01:27									#77
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Well, MtG, let's see...

(1) The White House floated the idea that this last election might have to be "postponed" if there were another terrorist attack. Following the vehement reaction to that idea, the White House backed off.

(2) Bush's economic plan is gibberish. Bush sought re-election with the argument the economy is doing well...unemployment down to 5+%, homeownership at an all-time high, etc. And so he plans to make the deficit, which were supposed to temporary to revive the economy, permanent by making the tax cuts permanent. Non-military spending is increasing 8% per year; military spending is going up even faster. Bush has already run up more debt in four years than any other President. Every baby in American is born owing a $20,000 "birth tax" as his share of the deficit.

Bush plans to create private investment accounts in Social Security will cost $2 trillion. To pay for it, he will need to: (a) cut benefits by $2 trillion; (b) raise taxes by $2 trillion, or (c) add $2 trillion to the deficit.

Bush plans to "streamline" the tax system. If that's what he does, great...but my guess is "steamline" is code for more tax breaks for the superwealthy.

And in the face of this, Bush promises to cut the deficit in half.

(3) The re-elction isn't even a week old yet, and already there's a schism in the Republican Party. Conservative Republicans are gunning for moderate Republicans such as Spector, who had the nerve to point out that, if Bush nominate wingnut justices who want to overturn Roe v. Wade, the Democrats will filibuster.

(4) Although Bush stated bin Laden couldn't run and hide, he's done both for three years. What if he does it for another four...? And what if Iraq turns into an unending bloodbath? Our presence there is already creating terrorists at a rate faster than we can kill them off.

Bottom line: Bush has peaked. So fasten your seatbelts...it's going to be a bumpy ride.

	08-11-2004 01:31									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Sava . . . Bush is a character I hate and want to die.

It would be better if he realized the errors of his ways and embraced the ideals of the Democratic Party.

	08-11-2004 01:53									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Zkribbler It would be better if he realized the errors of his ways and embraced the ideals of the Democratic Party.

sorry, I don't believe in "born again" Democrats.

	08-11-2004 02:08									#80
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This guy needed to grow up and realise that the world isn't centered just around him and his personal views on what is right and wrong - in terms of the country's direction and presumably just about every other aspect of life.

Now it's too late for him, but maybe by his actions, he's inadvertently left a message to others along those lines. I certainly hope so.

	08-11-2004 02:10									#81
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YES, no pity for the mentally ill! Let's just insult them!

	08-11-2004 02:12									#82
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quote: Originally posted by The Mad Monk WE have twenty, because WE have enough common sense to talk this out. What did HE say, Ted?

Actions speak louder than words.

On the flip side, how can you prove that you know why he did it? He didn't leave a note saying, "my guy lost!" Yet you are firmly convinced that's why he did it.

	08-11-2004 02:14									#83
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quote: Originally posted by GePap There is a difference Ted in the actions of this guy and the Buddhist monk- this action most certainly is NOT protest- protest needs to be seen, its a public act, not a private act. This guy may have gone to somewhere he felt was symbolically significant, but his act was stil a generally private one. This guy must have had a history of low self-esteem, depression, or deen under great stress that while exacerbated by the election, was not caused by it.

There is no difference whatsoever.

His act has now been seen by everyone in the country.


You guys can't pick and choose which one you like and which one you don't.

	08-11-2004 02:16									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Sava YES, no pity for the mentally ill! Let's just insult them!

I have seen more judgements in this thread than just about any thread before.


So much for JohnT's theory about the right not being arrogant.

	08-11-2004 02:16									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker There is no difference whatsoever. His act has now been seen by everyone in the country. You guys can't pick and choose which one you like and which one you don't.

How do you know what his intention was?

Maybe he just wanted to kill himself after seeing New York City.

See, that's what happens when you don't read the thread completely.


ACK!

	08-11-2004 02:18									#86
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quote: Originally posted by Sava YES, no pity for the mentally ill! Let's just insult them!

Well, since you're baiting, I'll just say you appear to be the expert on both of those points Sava.

	08-11-2004 02:21									#87
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quote: Originally posted by Winston Well, since you're baiting, I'll just say you appear to be the expert on both of those points Sava.

	08-11-2004 02:21									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski How do you know what his intention was? Maybe he just wanted to kill himself after seeing New York City. See, that's what happens when you don't read the thread completely. ACK!

I am correct 100% of the time.

	08-11-2004 02:22									#89
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Ted Striker

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The man must have been mentally unstable beforehand, and this was just an excuse for suicide.

If not, then he was just an idiot.