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Mr. Nice Guy is offline Mr. Nice Guy
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Mar 2002
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http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7...l?tag=cnetfd.ld

Dear IE, I'm leaving you for good

By Robert Vamosi
Senior editor, CNET Reviews
November 12, 2004

Dear Internet Explorer:

It's over. Our relationship just hasn't been working for a while, and now, this is it. I'm leaving you for another browser.

I know this isn't a good time--you're down with yet another virus. I do hope you feel better soon--really, I do--but I, too, have to move on with my life. Fact is, in the entire time I've known you, you seem to always have a virus or an occasional worm. You should really see a doctor.

That said, I just can't continue with this relationship any longer. I know you say you'll fix things, that next time it'll go better--but that's what you said the last time--and the time before that. Each time I believed you.

Well, not any longer.

You cheater!
The truth is there's nothing more you can say to make things better. I know about your secret marriage to Windows. You say you two are not seeing each other anymore, but I just don't believe it. You say you can live without Windows, and I've heard that Windows can live without you, but I know that's simply not true.

What about HTML e-mail in Outlook? Every time there's a new letter in the Inbox, you rush over to help Windows render it. And what about HTML within Word? There you go again. And don't get me started with those late nights you've spent rendering thumbnail images in Windows Explorer. You're all over Windows and, what, you just expect me to turn a blind eye?

You're no longer fit
For another thing, you've gone and gotten all lazy and out of shape on me. When was the last time you picked up a new feature? Two years ago? Three? While you rest on your laurels, while you spend your days slapping patches on the various flaws that seem to pour out as though your source code were a colander, the Internet has changed. A lot.

Last Christmas, I gave you a free RSS reader, Pluck, and you seemed to like it, with new feeds popping up from time to time keeping you fun and relevant. It gave me reason to think maybe you and I could work things out. But, in the end, it just wasn't a true fit; it wasn't really a part of you.

When I mentioned wanting to view more than one Web page at a time, you just laughed, said it couldn't be done. Well, I knew that wasn't true. Opera, Netscape, and now Firefox, they can all do it. You simply don't want to discuss change.

And when you do, it's only because of someone else. A certain someone else: Windows. Don't deny it. You didn't think twice when Windows XP SP2 offered you its shiny new pop-up blocker. Or gave you new firewall protection. I know Windows has promised to block buffer overflows, too--but I'll believe it when I see it.

Yet what have you done for me lately? I don't want to keep upgrading my operating system just to keep you around. Talk about baggage.

This is it
I know, I've tried breaking up before, and I've always come back, but that's because I couldn't find the right browser to move on with. I want an independent browser, one that stands on its own without a codependent operating system. What I want is a browser that's strong and secure, one that handles the latest content and won't crash. I want transparency. I want code that actually means something.

I have found just that.

With Mozilla Firefox, at least I know where I stand. The code is open source, built from the ground up, clean--not recycled. No more hidden agendas. At least when there's a flaw in Firefox, this browser alerts me on its toolbar. It doesn't try to hide its mistakes, waiting until the second Tuesday of the month to offer me a patch for some flaw that's been out there for six months already.

I can take my Firefox to my Mac and Linux friends, and everyone gets along just fine. You barely even talk to Macs anymore, and you always seem to walk out of the room whenever Linux stops by. Why? What are you afraid of? Honestly, a grown browser like you afraid of a little operating system? I think this snobby behavior speaks volumes about what's wrong with this relationship.

So this is it: Good-bye. I know you'll do fine without me; you always have. I'm sure there'll be someone who'll find you to be cute and interesting. It just won't be me.

Sometimes, breaking up can be easy. Care to write your own break-up letter to IE? Talk back to me.



So long sucker!

Sikander is offline Sikander
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Boulder, Colorado, United Snakes of America
Jan 2000
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Good riddance!

Blake is offline Blake
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Oct 2000
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thats awesome.

Skanky Burns is offline Skanky Burns
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Aug 2001
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And only several years after the rest of us stopped using IE.

Mr. Nice Guy is offline Mr. Nice Guy
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Mar 2002
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Put an end to popups!

I've used IE in the past few years, but only when I had to. That is, whenever a web page/site wasn't compatible with my other browser, but Firefox has changed all that.

So now I can finally @M$ as far as web browsing is concerned. Na na!

Sikander is offline Sikander
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Jan 2000
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
I've used IE in the past few years, but only when I had to. That is, whenever a web page/site wasn't compatible with my other browser, but Firefox has changed all that.

So now I can finally @M$ as far as web browsing is concerned. Na na!


Same here. It always seemed to be sites created with Microsoft Frontpage which wouldn't render properly in any browser but IE btw, but I'm sure that was purely coincidence.

loinburger is offline loinburger
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Jul 1999
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I'll show Microsoft who's boss by not using their free web browser.

Alex is offline Alex
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Mar 1999
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This is all cool and interesting, but the fact is that Microsoft doesn't give a **** to those who are jumping out of its boat. There are simply lots and lots of people still using IE. And this won't change.

(Boy, I'm pessimistic today, ain't I?)

Combat Ingrid is offline Combat Ingrid
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Nov 2001
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I use IE

It works great for me, but if there's anything better out there, I certainly wouldn't mind trying it out. Just provide me with some good arguments why I should switch

alva is offline alva
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Sep 2001
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quote:
I use IE

It works great for me, but if there's anything better out there, I certainly wouldn't mind trying it out. Just provide me with some good arguments why I should switch

Enough good arguments have been made many times over. Not having switched by now is either a sign of stupidity or ignorance, choose to which group you belong.

Firefox.

Shi Huangdi is offline Shi Huangdi
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Apr 1999
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  Old Post 16-11-2004 20:19
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To put it simply, Firefox is quicker, has the best pop-up blocker, and is more secure.

alva is offline alva
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Tired of ads?

Has tabbed brouwsing...

Asher is offline Asher
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Nov 1999
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Is far more customizable.

alva is offline alva
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Rss feeds ( or was possible with IE too?)

And, it's not from MS.

Combat Ingrid is offline Combat Ingrid
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Nov 2001
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To put it simply, Firefox is quicker, has the best pop-up blocker, and is more secure.


Sounds good

Are there any issues like certain sites (internet banks for example) won't work properly with it? Otherwise I guess I should go ahead and try it.

Alva: thanks for your first post, it was very enlightening
But at least tabbed browsing sounds interesting.

Atahualpa is offline Atahualpa
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Hawthrone
Mar 1999
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Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

great letter

Tattila the Hun is offline Tattila the Hun
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Oct 2002
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Teehee...

Gerar Dean is offline Gerar Dean
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Sep 2002
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Got spare money?

I use MyIE2 (now Maxthon). I try Firefox 1.0 but it's not better than than Maxthon and is too slow to start. A few ago I use Opera and was good but not for every site. Maybe the new versions....

But Maxthon is good to me: tabs, mouse gestures, you know, all the stuff. Fast and compatible (I feel like an used cars seller )

Asher is offline Asher
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Nov 1999
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I used MyIE2 a year ago. It's decent, but it's still IE.

alva is offline alva
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Who are you and what have you done to Asher?!?!

Asher is offline Asher
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Nov 1999
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I've been against IE ever since a real competitor has come out for it.

Mr. Nice Guy is offline Mr. Nice Guy
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Mar 2002
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Who are you and what have you done to Asher?!?!


Asher killed himself by swalloing a cyanide pill and his anti-wintel clone has taken over for his life.

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Asher is offline Asher
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Or maybe I'm someone who can judge software on its utility and value more than anything else.

Q Cubed is offline Q Cubed
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Apr 1999
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asher's always been for firefox.

and wow, great letter! it's just behind the curve by about, what, two, three years?

most people in the know have been running with opera, firefox, or mozilla for a long while now. :yawn:

Oerdin is offline Oerdin
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Sep 2001
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Put an end to popups!

Nah.

(OK, maybe. )

Oerdin is offline Oerdin
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"We are providing these instructions due to the recent disclosure of severe security exploits in Internet Explorer and the recommendation to switch to an alternative browser, such as Firefox, by the United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT), a division of the Department of Homeland Security."

http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/713878

Last Conformist is offline Last Conformist
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The 'Softies don't lose anything by us not running MSIE anyway, do they? We still pay for it when we buy Windooze, and that's all that should matter to them.

Asher is offline Asher
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The point of IE was to combat the potential threat of "Netscape" becoming a platform, like Windows. That was Netscape's stated objective.

I don't think they really care much about web browsers, but potential Windows competition is what they're concerned about.

Ben Kenobi is offline Ben Kenobi
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I still use IE.

Works well for me.

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quote:
Originally posted by Combat Ingrid

Are there any issues like certain sites (internet banks for example) won't work properly with it? Otherwise I guess I should go ahead and try it.


My bank's site doesn't work in opera, but it works just fine in firefox. Same with Gmail.

 
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