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Um...Lewis is going to be back this week. He's "Probable" for the game. And with Lewis, Baltimore is better than Denver or the Jets.

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Jamal Lewis has a sprained ankle and will probably play in their next game.

If it is Pittsbugh vs. Philly, the edge has to go to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's players win the match up against Philly.

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Um...Lewis is going to be back this week. He's "Probable" for the game. And with Lewis, Baltimore is better than Denver or the Jets.


Ah, that I didn't know.

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If it is Pittsbugh vs. Philly, the edge has to go to Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's players win the match up against Philly.


Ideally this would be the case. But if they do make it out, they won't be in an ideal state.

It's the same reason Tampa Bay won the Cup in hockey this year. All the Western Conference teams pummelled each other to pieces.

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Well that and the fact that they were a better team than Calgary .

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Naw, the Jets have an easy out, and Baltimore can't beat the Steelers.

AFC

1 Pittsburgh
2 New England
3 Indianapolis
4 San Diego
5 Denver
6 NY Jets

NFC

1 Philadelphia
2 Atlanta
3 Green Bay
4 Seattle
5 Minnesota
6 Carolina

Carolina is 4-7. They could make the playoffs at 8-8, but I see them going 7-9 at best.

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Saints
Rams
Falcons
Buccaneers
Saints

I see a loss against Atlanta, and going 4-1 for an 8-8 record.

Giants:

Redskins
Ravens
Steelers
Bengals
Cowboys

Now, supposing they win against the Redskins, Cowboys and Bengals, they will only be 8-8, tied with Carolina, and losing the tiebreakers, because Carolina has a better record against the NFC.

Rams:

49ers
Panthers
Cardinals
Eagles
Jets

3 losses, they aren't going to reach 8-8

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The Jets have to play the Steelers too. Plus Denver just lost to the Raiders.

I like Jaguar's predictions (especially Steelers win Superbowl - that would finally give them one for the thumb). I question St. Louis and New York (G) because they suck, but then the rest of the NFC sucks too.


St. Louis will win their division. The Seahawks won't even be close by the season's end. Their schedule was incredibly easy, and they could only pull of a 5-6 record. StL has beat them twice in a convincing fashion when they've played head to head. Seattle has never beaten a team with a winning record this season. Never.

The New York Giants are actually an ok team, and Tiki Barber will ultimately propel them to a wildcard spot. They've beaten Green Bay and Minnesota, so I think they can probably beat the Cowboys, the Browns, and the Redskins, who are the remaining teams on their schedule.

Maybe these teams aren't great, but look who they're up against. The other contenders for the second wildcard spot are:

1. The Seahawks, who have yet to beat a better-than-average team. Their wins are over to San Francisco, Miami, New Orleans, Carolina, and Tampa Bay. The best of these teams, Carolina, is 4-7. When they face a mediocre team like the Bills, they get destroyed. Remaining on the Seahawk's schedule are games against the Minnesota Vikings, New York Jets, and Atlanta Falcons. As far as I'm concerned, that's three losses already. They'll be 7-9 without the tiebreaker against St Louis at the end of the season. And that's provided that they can beat the Cardinals and the Cowboys.

2. The Cowboys. They are 4-7 overall, and in the last eight games they are 2-6. Supposing that they pull themselves together and improve significantly, the best they can do is 8-8. They've got a game against the Eagles left. They also have to deal with the Giants again. I doubt they can win both of these games, especially given how they were trounced the last time they played each of these teams.

3. The Carolina Panthers. They are also 4-7. However, they have won three in a row recently. However, these wins have been against abysmal teams, such as San Francisco. They have an Atlanta game left, and a St. Louis game left.


IMO, it's perfectly reasonable to think that StL and NYG will make the playoffs, at 8-8 or 7-9.

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The chances for the Rams hinge on that Carolina game. If they win, they will likely win their division, as an 8-8 team.

Remember, the Seahawks are 6-5. That makes all the difference in the world. They can afford to lose 3 should the Rams also lose three.

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That ain't gonna happen. Seahawks are an absolutly worthless team, and they have no more games against Miami or San Francisco.

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No. The Seehawks are still a good team. Both the Rams and Seahawks will go in. The rest of the teams suck.

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You're crazy thinking the Giants will go in. They suck too bad.

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No. The Seehawks are still a good team. Both the Rams and Seahawks will go in. The rest of the teams suck.

Name one good team that the Seahawks have defeated.

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They haven't, but they haven't played up to their potential, like the Rams haven't. They Giants were able to throw the ball in the beginning of the season, but now they can't for ****. Tiki can only do so much.

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Shaun Alexander can do only so much. He's a fairly good RB on an otherwise worthless team.

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No. Their defense is very good, and they have the ability to throw the ball better than they have.

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Seahawks will lose the West to the Rams. And second in the NFC West is nothing.

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http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7940366

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I find it funny that people are debating about the bottom of the NFC playoff teams. It doesn't matter who gets those last couple of spots. They have no chance of playing in Superbowl. On the other hand, there are 5 teams in the AFC that are capable of reaching the Superbowl.

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I also think Carolina is going nowhere. Seattle, perhaps they make it, but just barely. They are a shell of the team they were last year.

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I can't answer that question about Staubach - did he have a history of posting major stats, and then losing the biggest games in his career, especially when it was his first time playing at that level?


Don't know about Staubach, but that describes Elway to a tee .


Well, Elway did have a reputation as a choker... until 1996, when he didn't.

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Well, Elway did have a reputation as a choker... until 1996, when he didn't.


Thanks for making my point . The label choker is incredibly fickle and very unfair. Oh wait... Elway was supposed to be choker, but he won it all... oh drat.. well, we can't call him that anymore.

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I find it funny that people are debating about the bottom of the NFC playoff teams. It doesn't matter who gets those last couple of spots. They have no chance of playing in Superbowl. On the other hand, there are 5 teams in the AFC that are capable of reaching the Superbowl.


Not necessarily. Teams can improve during the season. It happens all the time. Just about every year.

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Well, Elway did have a reputation as a choker... until 1996, when he didn't.


Thanks for making my point . The label choker is incredibly fickle and very unfair. Oh wait... Elway was supposed to be choker, but he won it all... oh drat.. well, we can't call him that anymore.





Precisely.

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Carolina is coming on strong and will sneak in the playoffs as the last seed. I believe they will win their toughest remaining games vs. ATL and STL.

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I think Carolina has too many injuries and not enough returning players in time. They'll just fall short.

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Regarding Seattle, yes they are a terrible team. But they are 6-5 when 8-8 will get them into the playoffs.

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I find it funny that people are debating about the bottom of the NFC playoff teams. It doesn't matter who gets those last couple of spots. They have no chance of playing in Superbowl. On the other hand, there are 5 teams in the AFC that are capable of reaching the Superbowl.

Any AFC team capable of reaching the Superbowl can probably win it. Pittsburgh and New England are the teams to beat, and both of them will face really dangerous teams out of the wildcard matchups. Indianapolis, San Diego, Baltimore, and even NYJ are dangerous teams to face. The Jets have to stay healthy to get anywhere in the playoffs. They can't advance without Martin at 100%, and they can't advance without Pennington at 100%. If they make the playoffs, they'll be pitted right away against a spectacularly good QB. (Either Manning or Brees)

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Carolina is coming on strong and will sneak in the playoffs as the last seed. I believe they will win their toughest remaining games vs. ATL and STL.


You might change you mind after this week though. I think it's a good chance they will lose to NO.

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So Marshall Faulk just has a bruised knee. He supposedly is not too old yet. Hmmmm... I don't know, but Steven Jackson is going to tear it up against SF. Last time the Rams played them he broke one of their CBs arm who tried to arm tackle him.

 
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