23-11-2004 08:24									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon quote: R.E.M. was great as well, though whether they were rock or alternative is the big question, eh? I saw them at WS as well.

Jealous . Though, I guess I was born at the wrong time. My dream would have been to see Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones, and The Who back in the mid 70s. I'd be ultra jealous of anyone that got to do that .

	23-11-2004 08:26									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I've learned long ago to ignore the musical opinions of strategy game addicts. A huge portion of them listen to Final Fantasy music, a huge portion listen to country, and the rest listen to metal.

I have a bunch of Final Fantasy music done by a metal band.

	23-11-2004 08:26									#33
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Except it is. Take their song Push for example. G,C, E minor, D. Repeat over and over. A retarded dwarf could play that song on a guitar. So much for that argument.

Yourself or Someone Like You is an exception. Due to legal issues and record label pressures, Rob Thomas wrote that entire album in a month, and recorded it over two days.

He didn't have much choice because...well, he was homeless.

Lucky for him it sold something like 25M copies.

	23-11-2004 08:29									#34
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quote: Jealous . Though, I guess I was born at the wrong time. My dream would have been to see Led Zeppelin, the Rolling Stones, and The Who back in the mid 70s. I'd be ultra jealous of anyone that got to do that

I knew a guy who did. I was ultra jealous.

Gotta say, The Who Live at Leeds was my favourite album for years. I was overjoyed when they brought out the extended versions on CD.

	23-11-2004 08:38									#35
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Gotta get that one . "Who's Next" is one of my favs. Though I must say that I do prefer "Physical Graffiti" by Zep .

	23-11-2004 08:48									#36
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I still have to get all the Led Zep albums on CD. I had them on vinyl, but I bought the two box sets (which have all the songs on them). In my irrational state I'd like to have the albums as well.

One day when I get a DVD player, I will get the West was Won DVD (the CD is brilliant).

Who Live at Leeds is essential. The extended jam on My Generation is one of the best things they ever did.

I love Who's Next, Quadrophenia and LAL. The rest are pretty good too.

My Dad once played in the opening act for the Who in the mid sixties. He said they were too wasted to play and just smashed up all their equipment.

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quote: My Dad once played in the opening act for the Who in the mid sixties. He said they were too wasted to play and just smashed up all their equipment.

Sweet .

	23-11-2004 09:30									#38
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quote: Though I guess I don't understand the fascination some people have with pop bands which are one step removed from 'New Kids on the Block'.

Don't insult the New Kids by lumping them in with Matchbox 20. Step by Step is miles better than anything Rob Thomas and Co. have ever shat out...

quote: Gotta say, The Who Live at Leeds was my favourite album for years.

Great, great album.

quote: One day when I get a DVD player, I will get the West was Won DVD (the CD is brilliant).

There's a How the West Was Won DVD? I have the self-titled DVD from last year (which is completely awesome, BTW), but I can't find anything about a How the West Was Won DVD...

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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Don't insult the New Kids by lumping them in with Matchbox 20. Step by Step is miles better than anything Rob Thomas and Co. have ever shat out...

You like New Kids on the Block and Duran Duran.

That's still hilarious to me. You must've been the only boy in Nebraska to actually enjoy that music.

	23-11-2004 09:36									#40
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I never said I like New Kids On The Block. I just said they were miles better than Matchbox 20, which is a pretty obvious statement, I think.

I do love Duran Duran, though...

	23-11-2004 09:37									#41
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Duran Duran... a far better band than Matchbox 20!

	23-11-2004 09:43									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Duran Duran... a far better band than Matchbox 20!

	23-11-2004 09:58									#43
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Whackjobs.

Have you even heard Duran Duran's new single?

It is unabashedly horrible. It sounds like an upbeat inspirational type song, but it's way too slow for that.

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Who cares about their new single? The 80s and early 90s Duran Duran is their peak.

What? Can't you look beyond the 'new single'?

	23-11-2004 10:03									#45
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Duran Duran isn't bad.

I actually don't care for Rio that much, but the Wedding Album is great

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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Another cool thing about the late 80s was the guitar **** thing with Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. I still have those albums.

Satriani is still around, and I have his albums too.

Imran:

quote: Who cares about their new single? The 80s and early 90s Duran Duran is their peak. What? Can't you look beyond the 'new single'?

Oh, give me a break. I sincerely thought the only people who liked Duran Duran are the gay teenagers who -- for whatever reason -- love to live in the eighties. I know about four people like that, and they're the only ones I've met that liked Duran Duran before.

A good band doesn't have peaks, they're good or they suck.

Duran Duran sucks. They were hip and in for a while, but then their suckiness caught up to them.

	23-11-2004 10:06									#47
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Go listen to Rio (the album, not just the song) and then come talk to us, Glonk.

	23-11-2004 10:06									#48
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Agathon: to everything you've said.

In this thread at least.

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re Wedding Album: Come Undone and Ordinary World were great tracks and Too Much Information was great fun .

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quote: Come Undone and Ordinary World were great tracks

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quote: A good band doesn't have peaks, they're good or they suck.

Another statement which indicates why Glonkie's musical opinion should be discounted.

quote: Duran Duran sucks. They were hip and in for a while, but then their suckiness caught up to them.

Well, for a bright and shining moment, they were the kings of 80s New Wave. Though, personally, I prefered the Talking Heads. And even after the 80s they did some good stuff. "Electric Barberella" is one of my favorite songs .

	23-11-2004 10:16									#52
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I'm partial to Out Of My Mind from the soundtrack to The Saint.

	23-11-2004 10:19									#53
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asher discussing music is like watching a fish outta water.

	23-11-2004 10:28									#54
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quote: Another statement which indicates why Glonkie's musical opinion should be discounted.

Maybe I'm just more picky than you.

If a band gets lucky with an album or two, but everything after it sucks, the band sucks and got lucky.

If a band consistently produces albums that you consider good, the band is therefore good (see: The Beatles).

It's possible for a crap band to have the odd good song, but a good band has more good songs than bad. More consistency.

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If you like the classic U2 sound you should check out the new Manic Street Preachers album, 'Lifeblood.'

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quote: If a band gets lucky with an album or two, but everything after it sucks, the band sucks and got lucky.

Duran Duran put out quality albums for almost 10 years. Guess this is yet another statement which indicates why Glonkie's musical opinion should always be discounted...

	23-11-2004 10:38									#57
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quote: If a band gets lucky with an album or two, but everything after it sucks, the band sucks and got lucky.

What does this have to do with good bands having peaks? Peaks can go for a decade you know? Just because the Rolling Stones last few albums have been no where near as good as when they were at their peak (which lasted a few decades), doesn't diminish their greatness.

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The Rolling Stones are not great.

They are terrible with a few tolerable songs.

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Oh man, the musical opinion of Asher is just going further down the hole of the discounted with every statement!

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maybe you should stick to your day job, eh asher?