23-11-2004 05:24									#1
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I think it blows. Ive been a U2 fan forever, and their new CD is straight up pop. they said it was the best music they have ever cranked out, but i think its three steps backwards. sure, they've always dabbled in what was popular at the time (achtung baby, joshua tree, war, etc) and also done some weird stuff (zooropa) but i think this new album just stinks straight up.

	23-11-2004 05:31									#2
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What, is it even released yet? I'm just so behind the times, it seems.

	23-11-2004 06:18									#3
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having just heard vertigo, I can't say I was impressed. Sounds rehashed to me, very uninventive.

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U2 has always been crap, and you're just now realizing it.

They were a named by a guy in Marketing, and you're just now realizing it's poppy?

	23-11-2004 06:24									#5
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whatever you say assher.

	23-11-2004 06:25									#6
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I listened to 2 hours of "the history of U2" on the radio ("The Ongoing History of New Music"), and was surprised what cunts they were.

	23-11-2004 06:27									#7
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U2's music may be crap, but you have to admire their philanthropic leanings.

	23-11-2004 06:27									#8
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It's easy to be philanthropic when you have hundreds of millions of dollars...

	23-11-2004 06:32									#9
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So far I've heard nothing but good stuff about. I like 'Vertigo'. It probably will not be another 'Joshua Tree', but I'll probably end up getting the new album... right after I get Green Day's "American Idiot".

	23-11-2004 06:34									#10
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What's with you and washed up rock bands past their prime?

	23-11-2004 06:37									#11
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At least I don't like Matchbox 20

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It's pretty good. I might actually go and buy the thing... which would be quite a milestone for me, since I haven't bought a "rock" or "pop" album in over a decade.

	23-11-2004 07:16									#13
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I've liked U2, but I haven't heard anything from this album yet.

	23-11-2004 07:19									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui At least I don't like Matchbox 20

speaking of...

I found out recently that one of the member's in said band is my boss's son. Weird. I won't state whom (think Indiana), for fear of googling.

	23-11-2004 07:39									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui At least I don't like Matchbox 20

I can see why you wouldn't.

MB20 is heart-felt, melodic, catchy music.

U2 is synthetic, heartless, pop music. Most of the songs aren't even written by the band anymore. Beautiful Day was written by the same guy who writes lots of Celine Dion music, IIRC...

The tastes do not mix.

I went to a Green Day concert when I was 13, but I'd never go to one today. It's time to move on, son.

	23-11-2004 08:06									#16
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MB20 is crappy pop music which appeals to those who love boy bands but don't want to admit it. No wonder you like it .

What are you, like a 14 year old girl?

Does anyone else on this site think that MB20 is even mediocre?

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As for Green Day, perhaps you are discussing the wrong person who needs to get with the times. They just released an album being called the first punk rock opera and are everywhere after the critical and commerical success of the album.

	23-11-2004 08:10									#18
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I've learned long ago to ignore the musical opinions of strategy game addicts. A huge portion of them listen to Final Fantasy music, a huge portion listen to country, and the rest listen to metal.

	23-11-2004 08:11									#19
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U2 are

	23-11-2004 08:12									#20
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One of the best rock experiences I ever had was U2 live at Western Springs with BB King in 1989. It was a few days after the Berlin Wall fell and Bono was ecstatic.

Nothing beats hearing U2 play "One Tree Hill" under One Tree Hill. That's still my favourite U2 song.

U2 were great for me because at the time (the late 80s) there were really no great rock bands pumping out great stuff. Apart from my alt/punk thing I had to resort to the Who, Floyd and Led Zep for my fix. U2 were the best live act going at the time.

How the **** can anyone like Matchbox 20?

	23-11-2004 08:12									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui As for Green Day, perhaps you are discussing the wrong person who needs to get with the times. They just released an album being called the first punk rock opera and are everywhere after the critical and commerical success of the album.

I know that, and they've been hyping them to all hell on the local station. Radio sessions, live to air concerts, etc.

They're just as simplistic and punk-pop as before. Come on boys, learn some new chords.

Their new single, American Idiot, fell off the charts here ridiculously fast. They're already on Single #2.

That's what you get with simple songs.

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quote: I've learned long ago to ignore the musical opinions of strategy game addicts. A huge portion of them listen to Final Fantasy music, a huge portion listen to country, and the rest listen to metal.

Dude... you like Matchbox 20! Who are you to talk about relevant musical opinions?

The torture of Final Fantasy music would be worth it if my choices were between that and MB20.

	23-11-2004 08:15									#23
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Jesus... Matchbox 20 is about a step above Kelly Clarkson.

	23-11-2004 08:15									#24
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quote: U2 were great for me because at the time (the late 80s) there were really no great rock bands pumping out great stuff. Apart from my alt/punk thing I had to resort to the Who, Floyd and Led Zep for my fix. U2 were the best live act going at the time.

R.E.M. was great as well, though whether they were rock or alternative is the big question, eh?

	23-11-2004 08:18									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Asher U2 has always been crap, and you're just now realizing it. They were a named by a guy in Marketing, and you're just now realizing it's poppy?

For once, I agree with Asher. U2 sucks and will continue to suck I am sure.

...however...

quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui At least I don't like Matchbox 20

No ****. That band sucks every bit as much as U2 if not more.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Dude... you like Matchbox 20! Who are you to talk about relevant musical opinions? The torture of Final Fantasy music would be worth it if my choices were between that and MB20.

As I said, you would not understand.

If it's not about a pickup truck, if it's not a song that a 12 year old on his 3rd guitar lesson can play, and if it's not a heartless pop song, it's way beyond you.

	23-11-2004 08:20									#27
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quote: R.E.M. was great as well, though whether they were rock or alternative is the big question, eh?

I saw them at WS as well.

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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Dude... you like Matchbox 20! Who are you to talk about relevant musical opinions?

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There is nothing to understand outside the fact that Matchbox 20 sucks huge donkey balls. Though I guess I don't understand the fascination some people have with pop bands which are one step removed from 'New Kids on the Block'.

	23-11-2004 08:23									#29
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Another cool thing about the late 80s was the guitar **** thing with Steve Vai and Joe Satriani. I still have those albums.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher As I said, you would not understand. If it's not about a pickup truck, if it's not a song that a 12 year old on his 3rd guitar lesson can play, and if it's not a heartless pop song, it's way beyond you.

Except it is. Take their song Push for example.

G,C, E minor, D. Repeat over and over.

A retarded dwarf could play that song on a guitar. So much for that argument.