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Pekka
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em seu burro dos pais!
Feb 2002
time: 07:17
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I think when it comes down to it, it's definitely an issue of freedom and equality. The two things we should be looking out in democracies. Should be protecting those things.
It's a matter of "I don't want gays to marry". That is imposing a belief against someones life. That is RESTRICTING someones life and way of life, when that someone is NOT restricting your way of life and life. That's the bottom line IMO. We are limiting someone elses freedoms. Now, we might like it or not, we might not like the idea of two guys kissing in the streets. I must say that I go myself 'NASTY!'!! But then again, it's not MY life. If I value my life and my way of life and my freedoms, I should protect others freedoms as well, as that is protecting MY freedoms. I can't choose, that what ever freedom I don't care is not needed or important. I can't scream freedom when it suits me, and restriction when it doesn't. That's just against the nature of freedom.
Gay sex and bestiality is not the same thing. Bestiality is not legal. It is illegal. Gay sex is legal. And of course, bestiality involves animals, where as gay sex involves people. Hey, hetero guys stick it in the poopster too. They do exactly the same things, that gay people do. There's just no difference in the bedroom.
All I'm saying is that if we decide to limit the freedoms of gay people, we are limiting our own freedoms at the same time. And if we allow that, we can just as well limit other freedoms that we don't happen to like. Freedom is not something that we should always like. Freedom of expression and speech involves also speech we don't like, expression we don't like. It's the nature of it. Otherwise it's not really a freedom, but chosen set of things we allow and chosen set of things we don't allow in a big set of things that are really the same thing, but at the end we just don't feel like something is serving us right, something we don't like.
Religion etc, that point of view has different approaches on the issue. It's not clear, cut and settled. But since when does religion rule the laws in a democracy, limiting freedom of something it does not see as a good idea, overriding laws? In true democracies it doesn't. IN Taliban world it does.
If in the US the states can decide for themselves, then states should decide themselves how they're going to approach this issue. And the gays ruining the institution fo marriage.. well.. straight people have been doing a really good job at it for a long time.
In freedom, I should not be able to limit what you want to do if it's legal. Just like you should not be able to limit mine.
What if the world was gay dominant, and they didn't allow us straight people to marry, because they find it nasty and wrong? What if we were the minority? Of course we'd be screaming unequality. So why is it OK to go the other way then? I think it isn't, I think we're all created equal and our system in our societies are here to serve us and to protect our rights, and those are rights to freedom and all that.
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17-12-2004 08:47
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