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Locutus
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ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager
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Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
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Originally posted by germanos
Over here many talk about a sea-quake, which strikes me as very odd. |
Yes, our media once again assume we're all stupid idiots with the average IQ of a doorknob and won't be able to cope with a such a difficult Japanese word 
As far as relief efforts go, the US is even now only contributing about $0.12 per US citizen Compare that to the $300ish per inhabitant that has so far been spent in Iraq...
Of course, other countries are doing only slightly better, if at all. Per inhabitant, Australia, Kuwait and the United Arabic Emirates are probably the biggest contributors with $0.38, $0.45 and $0.80 respectively ($7.6m, $1m and $2m in absolute figures). The EU is the biggest absolute contributor with $45m, but that's still only $0.10 per inhabitant ($0.12 if you leave the 10 new member states out of the equation, because we know most of those can't contribute much), although the richer of the individual EU nations (e.g. GB, France, Germany, the Netherlands, etc) are on top of that also giving a few million each ($0.01-$0.12 per inhabitant). China gets the 'honour' of contributing the least per inhabitant at a whopping $0.002 ($2.6m total).
Yes, we are all so generous
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Tripledoc
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Originally posted by Odin
It's about time Tripledoc posts something that isn't some kind of crazy conspiracy theory. The mindless acts of nature shows what bunk the doctrine of the monotheistic religions are. |
Didn't you know that the earth is actually governed by a trilateral commisson consisting of Pluto, Zeus and Neptune?
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:17
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Originally posted by Locutus
Yes, our media once again assume we're all stupid idiots with the average IQ of a doorknob and won't be able to cope with a such a difficult Japanese word
As far as relief efforts go, the US is even now only contributing about $0.12 per US citizen Compare that to the $300ish per inhabitant that has so far been spent in Iraq...
Of course, other countries are doing only slightly better, if at all. Per inhabitant, Australia, Kuwait and the United Arabic Emirates are probably the biggest contributors with $0.38, $0.45 and $0.80 respectively ($7.6m, $1m and $2m in absolute figures). The EU is the biggest absolute contributor with $45m, but that's still only $0.10 per inhabitant ($0.12 if you leave the 10 new member states out of the equation, because we know most of those can't contribute much), although the richer of the individual EU nations (e.g. GB, France, Germany, the Netherlands, etc) are on top of that also giving a few million each ($0.01-$0.12 per inhabitant). China gets the 'honour' of contributing the least per inhabitant at a whopping $0.002 ($2.6m total).
Yes, we are all so generous |
IIUC it takes time to evaluate needs, etc. The US is also sending military transport assets, etc though that doesnt count as monetary aid. I have not heard the NGOs saying theyre constrained by lack of $ so far.
Also of course the above figures count only govt aid - europeans and Americans are big contributors to the NGOs that will play a big role.
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Tripledoc
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Speaking of weird conspiracy theories.
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Earthquake: Coincidence or a Corporate Oil Tragedy?
By: Andrew Limburg
Now I don’t claim to be an expert on seismic activity, but there has been a series of events which led up to the 9.0 earthquake of the coast of Indonesia which can not be ignored. This all could be an enormous coincidence, but one must look at the information and choose for themselves whether there is anything to it.
On November 28th, one month ago, Reuters reported that during a 3 day span 169 whales and dolphins beached themselves in Tasmania, an island of the southern coast of mainland Australia and in New Zealand. The cause for these beachings is not known, but Bob Brown, a senator in the Australian parliament, said "sound bombing" or seismic tests of ocean floors to test for oil and gas had been carried out near the sites of the Tasmanian beachings recently.
According to Jim Cummings of the Acoustic Ecology Institute, Seismic surveys utilizing airguns have been taking place in mineral-rich areas of the world’s oceans since 1968. Among the areas that have experienced the most intense survey activity are the North Sea, the Beaufort Sea (off Alaska’s North Slope), and the Gulf of Mexico; areas around Australia and South America are also current hot-spots of activity.
The impulses created by the release of air from arrays of up to 24 airguns create low frequency sound waves powerful enough to penetrate up to 40km below the seafloor. The “source level" of these sound waves is generally over 200dB (and often 230dB or more), roughly comparable to a sound of at least 140-170dB in air.
According to the Australian Conservation Foundation, these 200dB – 230dB shots from the airguns are fired every few seconds, from 10 meters below the surface, 24 hours a day, weather permitting.
These types of tests are known to affect whales and dolphins, whose acute hearing and use of sonar is very sensitive.
On December 24th there was a magnitude 8.1 earthquake more than 500 miles southeast of Tasmania near New Zealand, with a subsequent aftershock 6.1 a little later in the morning that same day.
On December 26th, the magnitude 9.0 earthquake struck at the intersection of the Australian tectonic plate and the India tectonic plate. This is the devastating tragedy that we have all heard about. The death toll of this horrific event has reached 52,000 souls and continues to rise.
On December 27th, 20 whales beached themselves 110 miles west of Hobart on the southern island state of Tasmania.
What is interesting about this is that the same place where the whale beachings have been taking place over the last 30 days is the same general area where the 8.1 Australian earthquake took place, and this is the same area where they are doing these seismic tests. Then 2 days after the Australian tectonic plate shifted, the 9.0 earthquake shook the coast of Indonesia.
A great deal of interest and seismic testing has been taking place in this area, as the government of Australia has given great tax breaks to encourage the oil exploration.
We will be following up on this story as more information is gathered. |
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http://www.independent-media.tv/ite...nder%20Reported
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lord of the mark
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FUKCOV - Former United Kingdom Colony of Virginia
Dec 2000
time: 00:17
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Originally posted by Pekka
UK 
Of course the problem is, they will be needing money in long run as well. So it's not like this is the last of the money people will send. However, it should not matter, lot of lives can be saved or lost. |
"The Pan American Health Organization (PAHO), however, urged citizens, organizations and countries to hold back and wait for a needs assessment to be conducted before anything is sent.
While there is a need for shelter, food and water in the affected countries, "it will take a few days to get everything under control," said Dr. Dana Van Alphen, an emergency preparedness advisor in PAHO's office of Emergency Preparedness and Disaster Relief."
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Tripledoc
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Did Sri Lanka Animals
Know Tsunami Was Coming?
12-29-4
COLOMBO (Reuters) - Sri Lankan wildlife officials are stunned -- the worst tsunami in memory has killed around 22,000 people along the Indian Ocean island's coast, but they can't find any dead animals.
Giant waves washed floodwaters up to 3 km (2 miles) inland at Yala National Park in the ravaged southeast, Sri Lanka's biggest wildlife reserve and home to hundreds of wild elephants and several leopards.
"The strange thing is we haven't recorded any dead animals," H.D. Ratnayake, deputy director of the national Wildlife Department, told Reuters on Wednesday.
"No elephants are dead, not even a dead hare or rabbit," he added. "I think animals can sense disaster. They have a sixth sense. They know when things are happening."
At least 40 tourists, including nine Japanese, were drowned.
The tsunami was triggered by an earthquake in the Indian Ocean on Sunday, which sent waves up to 5-metres (15-feet) high crashing onto Sri Lanka's southern, eastern and northern seaboard, flooding whole towns and villages, destroying hotels and causing widespread destruction.
© Copyright Reuters Ltd. All rights reserved. The information contained In this news report may not be published, broadcast or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of Reuters Ltd.
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Chemical Ollie
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Bored of this board
Jan 2002
time: 06:17
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Originally posted by Pekka
Chemical Ollie, what's the update on Swedes? They were the largest tourist group in there out of all............ |
The number of organised travelers missing is still about 1500. If you include the freelancers, the total number is unknown, but it is known that about half of the tourists are freelancers. So the number of missing Swedes is in practice 2-3000. Some of these were probably not even close to the West coast thought, backpacking in Bangkok and Northern Thailand. But the Phuket area was the most popular area for families with small children, and this happened on the peak season.
It looks like this will be the worst disaster for Sweden since Ivan captured Finland in 1809. I don't know how many died in the Spanish Flue though, 1918-1919, but that must have been pretty bad too.
People are dying in the airport while waiting for ambulance airplanes to bring them home. Not to mention all the locals who has no home. The situation for them is even worse. Many survivors are messed up really bad, they were smashed by all the debris floating around in the water. Cars, boats furniture, wood with nails sticking out, broken glass. Now its hot, over 30 degrees and they are getting infections.
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Chemical Ollie
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Bored of this board
Jan 2002
time: 06:17
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Originally posted by Pekka
Yes I read about the Swedish situation from our papers, but it's naturally now outdated.. but it said, that the situation with Swedes is very bad because of the current local conditions, meaning there will be .... more casualties if they don't get an airlift pretty ****ing ASAP, and that few Swedish doctors have appealed to Nordic countries to pull a joint operation, what ever it is but that someone could go down there and airlift the most bad cases that would be totally saveable if airlifted. Do you have any news on this? Are we doing anything or not? Is Sweden sending planes, what's happening in that regard? |
We are sending planes: regular passenger planes with medics and doctors as extra crew, ambulance planes, military transport planes with rescue workers, and military transport planes with fridges to keep bodies from decomposing in the heat and later bring home the bodies after identification. The target is that everyone who wants to should be home by Saturday. But there are some who refuse to go home before they have found out what happened to their family, naturally. The government has gotten harch criticism that it started to late.
But this is only the beginning. The local populations' need of help is much worse, and after our own people are evacuated, the focus must turn to them. Not so much in Thailand perhaps, but more in Sri Lanka and Indinesia. But the efforts to bring home our own citizens will be larger than anything we have done before, and will take our resources for a while.
I think we should call in the army to assist.
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