27-01-2005 17:46									#121
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Yes but if the war continues all the way to 1918 the armies of Germany will be totaly exhausted, and they are forced to send 15-16 year old kids to the frontline.
The french are sending every man they can find into the frontlines, resulting in economic crisis in the homeland.

These events are very important to make it realistic and historical.

	27-01-2005 19:50									#122
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@ Erika: To get Civ-specific units is rather easy.

For example:

Each nation's basic infantry has "Conscription" as prerequesite tech. Now the trick is the following: You need a tech for each civ to be human-controlled and name it "NOT Civ1", "NOT Civ2", etc.

Then get the rules file, scroll down to the unit list. It looks like this:

German Troops, nil, 0, 2,0., 5a (...), Csc, 000000000000
British Troops, nil, 0, 2,0., 5a (...), Csc, 000000000000

YouŽd need to change the expiration tech ("nil") to the respective "NOT Civ1", "NOT Civ2" tech.

Is this clear?

	30-01-2005 22:28									#123
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thanks,
now i just have to rewrite the rules.txt, there seem to be missing lines and other rather gaping holes

	05-02-2005 11:50									#124
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More bugs, looks like i'll have to rewrite he rules again

	07-02-2005 03:54									#125
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civ-specific or generic techs?

	07-02-2005 04:30									#126
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I'd go with a mix of the two, actually. Some generic techs are needed, as Future Tech must be available to everyone. I'd say techs that grant improvements and generic units should be generic, whereas techs that grant civ-specific units could be civ-specific.

	07-02-2005 06:27									#127
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I have found a valuable site with where you can find some inspiration for a further improved title

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=127468

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	08-02-2005 11:20									#128
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I am going to go with multable unit files, just to make the change in infantry a bit easier (for me anyways )
anyways, here is the units file (again, )
as you can see i have a lot of units to find, the fanatic slot and the last row will be blank in the first file, as will a number of other slots, in the second file they will be used for specialised units that did not show up until later in the war

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	08-02-2005 11:51									#129
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Won't let me post the Title.gif

	08-02-2005 11:53									#130
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here is the title
http://www.cdgroup.org/Home/viewtopic.php?p=2908#2908
(hint, scroll down)

	12-02-2005 20:14									#131
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Which year should i have the unit files change at, 1915 or 1916, when the unit files are changed all infantry get upgraded, what else should be upgraded for the second unit file?

	15-02-2005 21:54									#132
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I put my money on 1915 =) However I think the germans renewed their outfits in 1916...but it won't really matter, I guess the point of making these scenarios is to grant the ability to change the historical outcome.

	15-02-2005 22:03									#133
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i'll do 1916, then the second unit file will upgrade all the infantry and allow the production of tanks, (assuming the necissary techs are researched of course) also i'm thinking of introducing upgraded naval units, that will simulate the heavier dreadnoughts that were introduced then,
I am going to use a couple of wonders, one for britain and one for france, they will help boost production, but when germany introduces unrestricted submarine warfare, these wonders will become obsolete and their effects will stop, plus the US will enter the war after a bit on the allied side,
if germany doesn't research it, then britain and france will still enjoy boosted production, i will also use wonders and events to make all of the powers production, income and food start plummeting in the later war years,

	15-02-2005 22:10									#134
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Do the US join the war as a player or will they be supplying France with troops as in Jim Panses scenario?

	15-02-2005 22:26									#135
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i ran out of players slots so they will just appear as french or british controlled units

	15-02-2005 22:28									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Broken_Erika I am going to use a couple of wonders, one for britain and one for france, they will help boost production, but when germany introduces unrestricted submarine warfare, these wonders will become obsolete and their effects will stop, plus the US will enter the war after a bit on the allied side,

Now that is a brilliant idea!

	15-02-2005 23:29									#137
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Sometime around 1919-1920, if the germans havent taken their objective cities and the allies haven't pushed back the german advance then the game will end as a truce, if the allies push back the german advance by then, the armistice will happen, and if germany is at the outskirts of paris around them then france will armistice,

	16-02-2005 00:27									#138
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Are you going to have a British-controlled bedouin revolt in the Southern Ottoman Empire?

	16-02-2005 00:35									#139
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Brilliant Idea?

Why, yes it is.

I did exactly that in Age of War.

	17-02-2005 02:10									#140
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Will the Italian player (or AI) choose which side they will join, or will it be chosen for them by events?

	17-02-2005 02:18									#141
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quote: Originally posted by Cyrion Here is a suggestion of how the US entry into the war could be treated! I'm not sure whether I thought it up or stole it in a scenario (probably the later...). You could give from the start a Wonder or two to the Brit which would help him greatly economically (for instance, rename Adam Smith and Hoover Dam). Then you could make a tech name "Unrestricted Sub Warfare" researchable for the German (with some pre-requisites, so that the german player can't research it too soon). ...

Exile, this quote is from page 2 in this thread, as you can see I knew I had seen it somewhere! (and as you see my "brilliant idea" comment was a bit ironic, as I had suggested it)

Of course, I should have remembered it was in AoW! Did I already tell you how great this scen is??

Now that I think about it, I think that there even was a hot debate between you and Soundwave (remember his "History" scen ) when he wanted to modify this in the Age of War pbem!

	17-02-2005 07:03									#142
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The only conversation I ever had with soundwave was a private one in which I told him he'd better pull "his" scenario, or I was going to speak out. He indicated that he would. Then, he didn't. I still exercised restraint, but then a short time later, he announced that he was going to continue with his ripoff. And I spoke out in one of his threads. Then he disappeared. Funny how a little thing like intellectual theft gets folks all riled up.

Nowadays, scenarios are intricate pieces of work, and the details are sometimes very subtle. Soundwave's attempt to modify AoW were unsuccessful for this reason. The result was an incredibly unbalanced, ridiculously ahistorical scenario.

Strangely, my own feeling about AoW is that it was a failure, and the problems that became apparent were (more-or-less) solved in AoI. I still play AoI. I never play AoW. You might be referring to another conversation he had with someone else. He DID seem very talkative when he was around.

	17-02-2005 21:59									#143
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quote: Originally posted by Exile Strangely, my own feeling about AoW is that it was a failure,

Now be sure you're the only one I'll allow to say so!

	18-02-2005 22:12									#145
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Exile, have you ever thought about making ToT versions of AoW/Imp1870? Just think about the possibilities of the improved event triggers & actions and the additional unit slots...
Anyway, both scens are among only a few others the reason why I still have MGE on my HD!

	18-02-2005 22:22									#146
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Changes Between the 2 unit files,
All infantry Defence Raised, different infantry graphics
All Naval units Attack and defence Raised, to simulate the heavier warships introduced, different naval graphics
Aircraft carrier added as well as 1 more battlecruiser and sub,
a few more aircraft,
tanks introduced
ability to research unrestricted sub warfare,
bomber introduced,
sturmtruppen introduced, needed tech "Reformed Tactical Doctorine" introduced,

Note: Later Battlecruisers will have the same attack as dreadnoughts exept having 3 hit points whereas the dreadnoughts will have 4, to simulate the battlecruisers mounting 15in guns,

	18-02-2005 23:28									#147
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Update:
3 more dreadnoughts,
Ugly-Iron Duke Class 10-13.5 inch (5x2)
Very Ugly-Konig Class 10-12 inch (5x2)
Horrendous Monstrocity-Imperator Nikolai Class 12-12 inch (4x3)

	21-02-2005 18:14									#148
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I take it it's going to be alot of junk floating in the northern sea when this scenario is over ^^

	26-02-2005 02:57									#149
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Update:
i still need a map
tech tree went sour
I am still working on this scenario at a snails pace, due to a lack of interest, but it is sort of progressing, i played with some things, took 1 step forward, tech tree went sour, 3 steps back
nothing seems to be going smoothly here
if this project does eventually die, i will at least have a hoarde of ww1 naval units to show for it

	26-02-2005 03:24									#150
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I'm posting this gif for Erika and for Gareth. G, do you recall this one? IIRC, this one wasn't available to the public. If you lost it, here it is. Erika, here are some superb Brit Battlecruiser graphics;

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