20-01-2005 04:10									#391
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Not possible.

	20-01-2005 04:11									#392
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I think it is clear, but you are correct this question has come up before so it is obviously not clear enough.

You can only attack one other person. You cannot split your fleet to attack two other people you can only split your fleet to attack and defend.

Perhaps this should be clearly spelled out in the rules for next game, or Smiley could spell it out in the rules of this game.

In my opinion this is a necessary rule that cannot and should not be changed, allowing attacking of multiple opponents would result in a chaotic game for players and GMs alike.

* Sparrowhawk

	20-01-2005 04:15									#393
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Galactic Overlord A New Forum Game from Jamski Productions *** Special Orders (you can choose only one of these per turn) [list] [*]Attack! : This starts a fight between your fleet and that of an opponent. You must choose which ships to send, and which to leave at home in case you yourself are attacked that turn. See Combat for more.

I believe it is clear in the rules you can have only one attack per turn. Attack is one of the special orders.

	20-01-2005 04:18									#394
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Check this out Nice HTML version of the 1.3 rules, with a link to the upcoming 1.4 rules. http://www.geocities.com/j_maunders...i_GO_Rules.html -Jam

I read rules 1.4 and they are good. Will you GM GO 8 Jamski to introduce them?

	20-01-2005 04:37									#395
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Yeah, I guess I'm up again to GM a game.

-Jam

	20-01-2005 05:22									#396
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Update: There are 13 hours remaining to send in or modify orders.

Processing will begin at sunrise tomorrow (around 6:30 Pacific time)

A question about maneuvering: Are enemy weapons doubled against it, or do they hold constant? I could see lots of MML-MML style OoBs...

	20-01-2005 05:24									#397
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The regular players know about only being able to attack one other player, but with new people joining the rules could certainly use a tone up.

	20-01-2005 05:38									#398
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Update: There are 13 hours remaining to send in or modify orders. Processing will begin at sunrise tomorrow (around 6:30 Pacific time) A question about maneuvering: Are enemy weapons doubled against it, or do they hold constant? I could see lots of MML-MML style OoBs...

This is why this stuff is up now before GO 8 I guess MML-MML could be popular, but that pretty much guarentees the destruction of your fleet as it will be hit 4 times without reply.

Now, are we going to use the rule that weapons without reply do double damage? Or are they already damaging enough?

-Jam

	20-01-2005 08:35									#399
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I suppose ML*-ML* where * is whatever other element you want to throw in might be effective...

	20-01-2005 09:52									#400
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Orders sent.

	20-01-2005 10:50									#401
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quote: Originally posted by Atragon I suppose ML*-ML* where * is whatever other element you want to throw in might be effective...

It really depends. If you load up on one type of ammo (Laser, Torepdo, Fighter), you could easily wipe a fleet out in two turns of no attack.

	20-01-2005 12:11									#402
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Orders in

	20-01-2005 14:49									#403
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I'm thinking MLL/LML, for first round attack strategies, but the problem is that with 3x hit points, a cripping attack on first turn is harder now. The real advantage for the M order lies in 2 ship type fleets, like MTTMFF. The M command can also be used defensively, with MLLMMM, as opposed to something like LLT TFF, while only having lasers, which could be countered with balanced TTFFLL, causing massive counter strike damage. This is especially useful in reducing the risk of losing a attacks to zero if given good knowledge of enemy OOB.

MML type OOB are probably potentially capable of max damage, but it ensures heavy losses. In anycase, it now only causes a max of 2/3 damage due to the 3hit point rules.

	20-01-2005 20:34									#404
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Alright, all orders are in.

I gonna be busy this morning, so won't update for another six hours. But I'll let ya know this is happening:

People at peace this turn:
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Sandman
Skanky Burns
Spaced Cowboy

1 Overlord picked a good time to raise shields...
2 Overlords are probably going to be wiped out...
3 Overlords are going to lose their homeworlds...

I'd also like to point out that no bases were built this turn.

	20-01-2005 21:27									#405
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4 Overlords were double-crossed

	20-01-2005 21:40									#406
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5 overload won GOooooLD RINGS!

	20-01-2005 22:56									#407
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11 Overlords wondering where they fit into the above categories.

Anyone care to offer information? (I know I didn't attack, so I can only assume that someone, or a few someones....attacked me? )

Looks like most of the S section is safe, with Sandman, Skanky Burns and Spaced Cowboy all at peace this turn.

Atragon -
DrSpike - Attacked Jamski
Gamecube64 -
Hercules -
Jamski -
Joncha -
Jonny -
Ljube-lcjvetko - Attacked ?, FTTD
Lord Nuclear -
Paddy the Scot -
Sparrowhawk - Attacked by ?

Sandman - Peace
Skanky Burns - Peace
Spaced Cowboy - Peace

* Sparrowhawk

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	20-01-2005 23:26									#408
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Jamski is dead, and me too if anyone attacked anyone there.

	20-01-2005 23:34									#409
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I may also be dead. I fought to the death.

	20-01-2005 23:36									#410
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A big surprise is Sandman: in that nobody attacked him. All must have assumed that he would raise his shield.

And what's that, Skanky Burns didn't vacate a homeland and capture another base this turn. What heresy is this.

I think all the H's are in hot water.

	21-01-2005 00:14									#411
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Ah, but did I raise my shield this turn? Or did I manage to save it for another day?

	21-01-2005 00:28									#412
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You raised it.

	21-01-2005 01:20									#413
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk Atragon - DrSpike - Attacked Jamski Gamecube64 - Hercules - Jamski - Joncha - Jonny - Ljube-lcjvetko - Attacked ?, FTTD Lord Nuclear - Paddy the Scot - Sparrowhawk - Attacked by ?

quote: 1 Overlord picked a good time to raise shields... 2 Overlords are probably going to be wiped out... 3 Overlords are going to lose their homeworlds...

Estimation:
Atragon - attack + defend
DrSpike - attacked jamski
Gamecube64 - allied attack
Hercules - attack?
Jamski - defend
Joncha - attack
Jonny - defend
Lujub - defend?
Lord Nuclear - allied attack?, defend?
Paddy the Scot - defend? shield? allied attack?
Sparrowhawk - defend

	21-01-2005 03:04									#414
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It would make no sense for Jamski to defend. He either shields or attacks. His attack would have to be aimed at someone who is sure to attack this turn.

	21-01-2005 03:59									#415
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A quick map of the attacks:

Three battles were simple occupations: Atragon's offensive fleet took Ljubeland, Hercules subjugated the defenseless Scots, and Doc sailed into Jamski's airspace.

Meanwhile, Gamecube and Jamski both rammed Jonny's shield, costing Gamecube three frigates, a cruiser, and 1 BP worth of damage. While Jamski's losses were lower in absolute terms, it amounted to his entire fleet, which also happened to be all that was left of the once great Jampire.

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Skanky partially vacated his base and attacked Doc, where his forces faced no opposition. Data and charts have been edited.

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	21-01-2005 04:00									#416
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Yay, everyone gets into the action.

	21-01-2005 04:08									#417
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There's no stopping Hercules now.

	21-01-2005 04:25									#418
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Wheee, I'm not out of it! (probably)

	21-01-2005 04:29									#419
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And now, the first hostilities of the day:

Ljube and Paddy's combined fleets bore down on Atragon's sizeable but still hopelessly outnumbered defensive fleet.

Both sides brought up torpedoes first. But, while Ljube and Paddy had spread their ships out, Atragon's clustered fleets took knockout hits in the opening round.

Atra's fleet fared no better against Ljube and Paddy's fighters the second time around, and was trounced again when the torpedoes of death descended on his exploding carriers in the third and final round.

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	21-01-2005 04:46									#420
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And now, a small but intense battle as Joncha tries to steal Doc's loot. Tactics and OoBs of the two sides are remarkably similar.

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