25-01-2005 02:57									#1
	Advanced Hellenistic Era NES - Part 2 Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

Continuing from the Advanced Hellenistic Era NES - Part 1.

Price List (numbers you get for 1 talent)
(Upkeep is 10% of purchase costs)

200 light infantrists (militia)
- peasants drafted into the army
- equipped with pitchforks, flails, clubs, bows and tools in general
- no armour at all
- good in desert and mountainous areas, bad vs. cavalry

125 foot soldiers (regulars)
- usual infantry regulars
- equipped with spears, daggers, javalines, bows
- lightly armoured (leather)
- fast but vulnerable to cavalry; can evade heavy infantry

70 horsemen (HORSES)
- light cavalry
- equipped with spears or swords
- usually lightly armoured, leather shield or none at all
- very fast, but vulnerable to spears (hoplites)

80 hoplites [Athens, Sparta, Macedonia, Sicily, Bosporian Greek, Crete, Lydia] (COPPER)
- heavy elite infantry
- equipped with extremely long spears
- heavily armoured
- several lines deep formations; lethal to cavalry

70 swordsmen (IRON)
- heavy infantry
- eqipped with swords or warblades
- lightly armoured to ensure speed and freedom of movement
- good allround warriors, though vulnerable to distance weapons

70 legionaries [Rome] (IRON)
- core of the Roman Legions
- different troop types equipped with spears, javalines and short swords
- good armour, metal shields
- very disciplined and well-trained in a vast variety of tactics

65 immortals [Persia] (IRON)
- Persian elites, used as the royal guards
- Mixed force including swordsmen, archers, javaliners, pikemen and camel riders

65 Hetaires [Macedonia] (HORSES)
- Macedonian Compagnion Cavalry
- equipped with spears and swords
- armoured and shielded
- fearsome charge!

55 camelriders [Persia, Egypt] (CAMELS)
- heavy mounted troops
- equipped with spears and bows
- lightly armoured
- inflict panick on horses, especially suited for desert operations

25 war chariots [Persia, Egypt] (TIMBER)
- horse-drawn armoured chariots
- crew equipped with bows, javalines and spears
- chariot equipped with scythes
- very fast, deadly to infantry, needs flat terrain

1 war elephant [Carthage, Persia] (ELEPHANTS)
- trained elephants
- crew equipped with bows or javalines
- elephants may be armoured
- cost double upkeep (20% of purchase cost instead of 10%)

1 trireme (costs 3 Talents!!!) (TIMBER)
- mighty ram-equipped warship, very maneuverable
- can carry 100 troops (40 cavalry, 20 elephants, 20 chariots) at once

RESSOURCES:

Valuables (ressources generating talents by mining):
copper, silver, gold, gems

Foods (ressources increasing efficiency by 10% each):
grain, fish, cattle

Consumer goods (ressources increasing efficiency by 3% each):
furs, dyes, fabrics, pottery, oil, ivory, paper, drugs, spices, silk, incense, flax, glasswares, marble, slaves, tea, honey, amber, tin, silver, gold, gems, copper, wine, salt

Military goods (ressources increasing military effectiveness by 10% each):
iron, copper, wine, salt, furs (meaning leather here)

Strategic goods (ressources needed for training):
timber [triremes, war chariots]
horses [horsemen, hetaires]
iron [swordsmen, immortals, legionaries]
copper [hoplites]
camels [camelriders]
elephants [war elephants]

Last edited by Micha on 11-02-2005 at 00:12

	25-01-2005 02:58									#2
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Game Map - 270 b.c. (456 kB)

--- updated ( Turn 14 ) ---

PLAYER STATS (270 b.c.)

Kingdom of Macedonia
Ruler: Foolish Icarus
Economy
Efficiency: 99% [base +50, food +20, goods +36 , infra +14, dissent -1, multicultural -10, war -10]
Income: 302 talents [305 talents * 0.99]
- taxation : 206 talents (+9)
- trade (exports) : 13 talents [salt (Egypt 5); horses (Egypt 4); wine (Egypt 4)]
- agriculture : 50 talents
- mines : 25 talents
- Other Income : 11 talents [tourism]
Expenses: 158 talents
- upkeep (army): 64 talents
- upkeep (navy): 32 talents
- trade (imports) : 49 talents [spices (Persia 10); grain (BospGr 9); timber (Lydia 8); pottery (Lydia 6); copper (Persia 6); paper (Egypt 5); furs (Persia 5)]
- Other Expenses : 13 talents [Piracy, peasant aid]
Cash Flow: 144 talents per turn
treasury: 0 talents
Ressources: [fish, salt, iron, marble, horses, silver, gold, honey, wine, fabrics, (grain), (paper), (timber), (pottery), (spices), (furs), (copper)]
Army
Military Effectiveness: 113% [base +50, leadership +2, training +2, experience +10 (+5), morale -1, equipment +50 ]
- "Alexander´s Army" - Cyrenaica - 4,091 Hetaires; 387 horsemen; 288 swordsmen; 8,065 hoplites; 3,366 foot soldiers; siege equipment [14]
- "Macedonian Army" - Adrianopolis - 150 Hetaires; 12,000 foot soldiers
- "Trapezunt Defence Force" - Trapezunt - 2,000 horsemen; 3,000 foot soldiers
- "Attic Defence Force" - Athens - 7,500 hoplites; 1,000 swordsmen; 13,000 foot soldiers
- "Expedition Force" - Herakleia - 500 hetaires; 500 hoplites; 6,000 foot soldiers
- "Naval Force" - Macedonian Fleet - 85 foot soldiers
- "Southern Guard" - Alexandrograd - 1,000 hoplites
Navy
- "Macedonian Battlefleet" - off Corinthos - 61 triremes
- "Attic reserve fleet" - Aegian Sea - 35 triremes
- "Pharos Fleet" - Aegian Sea - 11 triremes; 15 damaged triremes
Notes
Secret Police: Adequate
Government: Kingdom with supreme leader and subject nobles

Persian Empire
Ruler: Bipolarbear
Economy
Efficiency: 75% [base +50, food +20, goods +48, infra +7, dissent -20 (+3), multicultural -10, war -10, civil war -10]
Income: 411 talents [548 talents * 0.75]
- taxation : 235 talents
- trade (exports) : 81 talents [cattle (Egypt 10, Lydia 8); spices (Mac 10); tea (Rome 8); timber (Lydia 6); copper (Mac 6); furs (Mac 5); copper (Egypt 4); gold (Egypt 3); silver (Egypt 3); glass (Egypt 3); dyes (Egypt 3); drugs (Egypt 3); gems (Egypt 3); spices (Egypt 3); silk (Egypt 3)]
- agriculture : 66 talents
- mines : 3 talents
- Other Income : 163 talents (+25) [Tributes]
Expenses: 259 talents
- upkeep (army): 122 talents
- upkeep (navy): 13 talents
- trade (imports) : 36 talents [grain (Egypt 12); spices (India 9), tea (India 7), silk (China 7), marble (Lydia 5); paper (Egypt 4), iron (Rome 4)]
- Other Expenses : 88 talents (-2) [corruption, secret police]
Cash Flow: 152 talents per turn
treasury: 0 talents
Ressources: [cattle, fish, fabrics, salt, gold, silver, copper, glasswares, dyes, oil, horses, furs, drugs, timber, gems, (spices), (tea), (silk), (paper), (grain), (iron), (marble)]
Army
Military Effectiveness: 60% [base +50, leadership -15, training +8, experience +6, morale -27, equipment +40]
- "Phrygian Army" - Phrygia - 800 horsemen; 3,800 swordsmen; 4,000 foot soldiers
- "Army of the West" - Sidon - 500 war chariots; 1,000 swordsmen; 2,995 horsemen; 15,122 foot soldiers, 500 light infantry
- "Mesopotamian Army" - Babylon - 900 war chariots; 4,000 foot soldiers
- "Eastern Army" - Persepolis - 1,000 war chariots; 4,000 horsemen; 6,000 foot soldiers
- "Assyrian Army" - Aleppo - 2,000 swordsmen; 2,000 horsemen
- "Armenian Army" - Melita - 2,000 horsemen
- "Pisidian Loyalists" - Iconion - 500 war chariots; 2,000 horsemen; 6,000 foot soldiers
- "Army of Cappadocia" - Mazaka - 3,000 horsemen
- "Tarsos homeguards" - Tarsos - 1,500 horsemen; 1,000 swordsmen; 10,000 foot soldiers; 1,000 light infantry
- "Army of Egypt" - Gaza - 2,880 war chariots; 877 immortals; 7,244 horsemen; 1,421 swordsmen; 7,740 foot soldiers
- "Cypros garrison" - Salamis - 1,000 light infantry
- "Jerusalem immortals" - Jerusalem - 775 immortals
- "Lower Cappadocian Army" - Tyana - 500 war chariots
- „Military Police“ - spread among the cities - 243 immortals
Navy
- "Persian Invasion Fleet" - Tyros - 43 triremes
Notes
Secret Police: Good
Government: Multiple nations combined under the absolute rule of an emperor.
- All subjugated provinces pay tributes!

Sparta
Ruler: NPC
Economy
Efficiency: 66% [base +50, food +10, goods +9, infra +5, dissent -8 ]
Income: 96 talents [146 talents * 0.66]
- taxation : 106 talents
- trade (exports) : 5 talents [honey (Carthage 5)]
- agriculture: 35 talents
- mines : 0 talents
- Other Income : 0 talents
Expenses: 55 talents
- upkeep (army): 37 talents
- upkeep (navy): 12 talents
- trade (imports) : 18 talents [grain (BospGr 6); iron (Rome 6); salt (Carthage 3); wine (Carthage 3)]
- Other Expenses : 2 talents [Piracy]
cash flow: 27 talents per turn
treasury: 81 talents
Ressources: [honey, (grain), (iron), (salt), (wine)]
Army
Military Effectiveness: 117% [base +50, leadership +8, training +6, experience +8 , morale +15, equipment +30 ]
- "Spartan Elites" - Sparta - 19,548 hoplites; 5,662 swordsmen; 4,035 horsemen
- "Rhodos Defence Force" - Rhodos - 2,000 foot soldiers
Navy
- "Spartan Fleet" - Argos - 40 triremes
Notes
Secret Police: Adequate
Government: Alliance dominated by Sparta, limited suffrage consensus-democracy under a rigid code of law.
- get 90 hoplites per talent

Lydia
Ruler: 1889
Economy
Efficiency: 89% [base +50, food +30, goods +21 , infra +5, dissent -7, multicultural -10]
Income: 232 talents [261 talents * 0.89]
- taxation : 197 talents
- trade (exports) : 34 talents [timber (BospGr 6); pottery (Carthage 7; Macedonia 6; Egypt 4); marble (Persia 5, BospGr 3); fabrics (BospGr 3)]
- agriculture : 20 talents
- mines : 10 talents (+10)
- Other Income : 0 talents
Expenses: 123 talents
- upkeep (army): 55 talents
- upkeep (navy): 17 talents
- trade (imports) : 48 talents [cattle (Persia 8); grain (BospGr 8); timber (Persia 6); copper (Carthage 6); iron (BospGr 6); fish (Carthage 5); oil (Rome 5); paper (Egypt 4)]
- Other Expenses : 3 talents [Piracy]
Cash Flow: 109 talents per turn
treasury: 11 talents
Ressources: [pottery, fabrics, marble, silver, (timber), (grain), (paper), (iron), (cattle), (fish), (copper), (oil)]
Army
Military Effectiveness: 86% [base +50, leadership +3, training +10 (+3), experience +0, morale +3, equipment +20]
- "Lydian Army" - Sardes - 8,000 horsemen; 15,000 foot soldiers; 700 swordsmen
- "Army of Milet" - Miletos - 3,500 hoplites; 6,000 foot soldiers
- "Southern Army" - Aspendos - 5,000 horsemen; 3,000 hoplites; 5,000 foot soldiers
- "Asia Minor Army" - Ephesos - 2,500 horsemen; 4,000 foot soldiers
Navy
- "Lydian Fleet" - Miletos - 57 triremes
Notes
Secret Police: Adequate
Government: Kingdom

Kingdom of Sicily
Ruler: NPC
Economy
Efficiency: 38% [base +50, food +10, goods 0, infra +7, dissent -9, multicultural -10, war -10]
Income: 48 talents[126 talents * 0.38]
- taxation : 82 talents (-14)
- trade (exports) : 0 talents
- agriculture : 44 talents
- mines : 0 talents
- Other Income : 0 talents
Expenses: 24 talents
- upkeep (army): 19 talents
- upkeep (navy): 0 talents
- trade (imports) : 0 talents
- Other Expenses : 5 talents [Piracy]
Cash Flow: 24 talents per turn
treasury: 13 talents
Ressources: [grain]
Army
Military Effectiveness: 39% [base +50, leadership +0, training +1, experience +0 , morale -12 , equipment 0]
- "Army of Sicilia" - Syracuse - 6,500 hoplites; 14,000 foot soldiers
Navy
Notes
Secret Police: Adequate
Government: Kingdom, occasional aristocratic councils

Carthage
Ruler: Lord Nuclear (aka Nuclear Master)
Economy
Efficiency: 68% [base +50, food +20, goods +39 , infra -12 , dissent -9, multicultural -10, war -10]
Income: 180 talents [264 talents * 0.68]
- taxation : 177 talents
- trade (exports) : 27 talents [copper (Lydia 6); fish (Lydia 5); wine (Rome 4, Sparta 3); salt (Rome 4, Sparta 3); oil (BospGr 2)]
- agriculture : 40 talents
- mines : 20 talents
- Other Income : 0 talents
Expenses: 67 talents
- upkeep (army): 37 talents
- upkeep (navy): 0 talents
- trade (imports) : 24 talents [iron (Rome 8); pottery (Lydia 7); honey (Sparta 5); fabrics (Rome 4)]
- Other Expenses : 6 talents [corruption]
Cash Flow: 113 talents per turn
treasury: 0 talents
Ressources: [elephants, grain, fish, wine, salt, paper, silver, copper, timber, oil, marble, ivory, dyes, slaves, (iron), (pottery), (honey), (fabrics)]
Army
Military Effectiveness: 78% [base +50, leadership 0 (-12); training +4, experience +4 , morale -20, equipment +40]
- "Carthage Defence Force" - Carthage - 10,000 foot soldiers; 3,000 light infantry
- "Hispania Army" - Carthago Nova - 4,000 light infantry
- "Home Guard" - spread in core cities - 1,500 foot soldiers
- „Invasion Defence Force“ - Cyrene - 20 war elephants; 2,100 horsemen; 1,400 swordsmen; 13,810 foot soldiers; 9,480 light infantry
Navy
Notes
Secret Police: Basic
Government: Oligarchy with magisterial rule

Roman Empire
Ruler: Laurentius
Economy
Efficiency: 65% [base +50, food 0 , goods +21, infra +17, dissent -3 (+1), multicultural -10, war -10]
Income: 241 talents [370 talents * 0.65]
- taxation : 281 talents (+24)
- trade (exports) : 38 talents [iron (Egypt 8, Carthage 8, Sparta 6, Persia 4); oil (Lydia 5, Egypt 3); fabrics (Carthage 4)]
- agriculture : 36 talents (+8)
- mines : 0 talents
- Other Income : 15 talents [tributes]
Expenses: 100 talents
- upkeep (army): 51 talents
- upkeep (navy): 23 talents
- trade (imports) : 20 talents [grain (Egypt 8); tea (Persia 8); wine (Carthage 4); salt (Carthage 4); paper (Egypt 4)]
- Other Expenses : 6 talents [trade protection]
Cash Flow: 141 talents per turn
treasury: 0 talents
Ressources: [iron, timber, marble, fabrics, wine, oil, (grain), (salt), (tea), (paper)]
Army
Military Effectiveness: 109% [base +50, leadership +1 (+3) , training +5, experience +25, morale -2 (+5), equipment +30]
- "Legion I Romana" (Servilius Sulpicius Praetextatus) - Rome - 4,505 legionaries; 2,081 horsemen; 934 foot soldiers
- "Legion II Italica" (Aelius Manlius Capitolinus) - Mediolanum - 10,032 legionaries; 3,745 hoplites; 82 horsemen; 148 foot soldiers
- "Legion III Latina" (Lucius Geganius Macerinus) - Tarentum - 3,476 legionaries; 886 horsemen; 565 foot soldiers
- "Legion IV Augusta" (Quintus Servilius Fidenas) - Rhegion - 2,394 legionaries; 247 horsemen; 500 foot soldiers
- „Legion V Liguria“ (Vappa Monterus) - Rhegion - 1,965 legionaries; 9,767 foot soldiers
- "Siege army" - Rhegion - 365 foot soldiers; siege equipment (4)
Navy
- "Roman Fleet" - Neapolis - 76 triremes; siege equipment (4)
Notes
Secret Police: Basic
Government: Patrician Republic (Rome) dominates ally and subject states
- cheaper colonies when land connection to capital

Egypt
Ruler: appleciders
Economy
Efficiency: 100% [base +50, food +20, goods +18, infra -12 (+3), dissent -0, war -10]
Income: 138 talents [138 talents * 1]
- taxation : 95 talents (-50)
- trade (exports) : 21 talents [grain (Persia 12, Rome 8); paper (Macedonia 5, Lydia 4, Crete 4, Persia 4, Rome 4)]
- agriculture: 22 talents (-16)
- mines : 0 talents
- Other Income : 0 talents
Expenses: 106 talents
- upkeep (army): 21 talents
- upkeep (navy): 0 talents
- trade (imports) : 79 talents [cattle (Persia 10); iron (Rome 8); salt (Macedonia 5); marble (Crete 5); horses (Macedonia 4); pottery (Lydia 4); furs (BospGr 4); timber (BospGr 4); wine (Macedonia 4); copper (Persia 4); oil (Rome 3); gold (Persia 3); silver (Persia 3); glasswares (Persia 3); dyes (Persia 3); drugs (Persia 3); gems (Persia 3); spices (Persia 3); silk (Persia 3)]
- Other Expenses : 6 talents [Corruption, Piracy]
Cash Flow: 32 talents per turn
treasury: 315 talents
Ressources: [camels, grain, paper, fish, (iron), (salt), (marble), (horses), (pottery), (furs), (timber), (wine), (copper), (cattle), (oil), (gold), (silver), (glasswares), (dyes), (drugs), (gems), (spices), (silk)]
Army
Military Effectiveness: 113% [base +50, leadership -5, training +7, experience +19 (+5), morale -8, equipment +50 ]
- "Pharao´s Army" - Memphis - 11 war elephants; 1,417 war chariots; 5,067 horsemen; 2,934 swordsmen; 686 foot soldiers; 2,413 light infantry
- [Persia] „Persian Elite Guard“ - Tanys - 724 immortals
Navy
Notes
Secret Police: Good
Government: Bureaucratic kingdom

Bosporian Greek
Ruler: NPC
Economy
Efficiency: 60% [base +50, food +10, goods +15, infra -10, dissent -5]
Income: 83 talents [138 talents * 0.60]
- taxation : 72 talents (+6)
- trade (exports) : 42 talents [grain (Macedonia 9, Lydia 8, Sparta 6, Crete 5); furs (Egypt 4); timber (Egypt 4); iron (Lydia 6)]
- agriculture : 24 talents
- mines : 0 talents
- Other Income : 0 talents
Expenses: 46 talents
- upkeep (army): 27 talents
- upkeep (navy): 5 talents
- trade (imports) : 14 talents [timber (Lydia 6); marble (Lydia 3); fabrics (Lydai 3); oil (Carthage 2)]
- Other Expenses : 0 talents
Cash Flow: 37 talents per turn
treasury: 40 talents
Ressources: [grain, wine, iron, furs, (timber), (oil), (marble), (fabrics)]
Army
Military Effectiveness: 84% [base +50, leadership -5, training +2, experience +2, morale +5, equipment +30]
- "Crimean defence force" - Chersonesos - 2,000 horsemen; 7,500 foot soldiers
- "Army of Olbia" - Olbia - 3,500 horsemen; 12,000 foot soldiers
- "Istros garrison" - Istros - 1,000 hoplites
- "Tanais Garrison" - Tanais - 2,000 hoplites
Navy
- "Crimean fleet" - Chersonesos - 15 triremes
Notes
Secret Police: Adequate
Government: military alliance of city states, limited democracy

Crete
Ruler: NPC
Economy
Efficiency: 63% [base +50, food +10, goods +6, infra +0, dissent -3]
Income: 67 talents [107 talents * 0.63]
- taxation : 84 talents
- trade (exports) : 5 talents [marble (Egypt 5)]
- agriculture : 13 talents
- mines : 0 talents
- Other Income : 5 talents [Piracy]
Expenses: 45 talents
- upkeep (army): 28 talents
- upkeep (navy): 8 talents
- trade (imports) : 9 talents [grain (BospGr 5); paper (Egypt 4)]
- Other Expenses : 0 talents
Cash Flow: 22 talents per turn
treasury: 75 talents
Ressources: [marble, (grain), (paper)]
Army
Military Effectiveness: 55% [base +50, leadership -14, training +4, experience +12, morale +3, equipment +0]
- "Cretean Army" - Crete - 2,000 hoplites; 5,000 horsemen; 12,735 foot soldiers
- "Aegian Army" - Aegian Islands - 2,000 swordsmen; 6,500 foot soldiers
Navy
- "Cretean Fleet" - Knossos - 28 triremes
Notes
Secret Police: Adequate
Government: Tyranny

Other Armies
- "Celtian Horde" - 1,201 foot soldiers
- "Aquilejan Tribes" - Aquileja - 2,720 horsemen; 9,342 foot soldiers
- "Southern Gauls" - near Genua - 3,846 horsemen; 10,115 foot soldiers
- "Scythian Tribes" - Crim Peninsula - 7,000 horsemen; 14,000 foot soldiers
- "Scythian Nomades" - North of Olbia - 14,500 horsemen
- "Scythian Nomades II" - Northeast of Olbia - 8,500 horsemen
- "Nubian Tribes" - Southern Egypt - 19,000 foot soldiers
- "Lybian Nomads" - Western Egypt - 6,500 horsemen
- "Arabian Tribes - Arabia - 12,000 horsemen; 7,500 foot soldiers
- "Sinai tribes" - Sinai - 3,080 horsemen
- "Adria garrison" - Adria - 6,000 hoplites; 3,000 horsemen; 6,750 foot soldiers
- "Army of Massilia" - Massilia - 2,305 hoplites; 5,640 foot soldiers
- "Army of Nicaea" - Nicaea - 2,000 hoplites
- „Pirates“ - Baleares - 700 foot soldiers
- „Western Moesian tribes“ - West of Moesia - 4,500 horsemen; 6,000 foot soldiers
- „Dacian Army“ - Dacia - 5,500 swordsmen; 2,000 horsemen; 3,000 foot soldiers
- „Bastarnae Warriors“ - Bastarnae - 7,000 swordsmen; 1,500 horsemen; 4,000 foot soldiers
Other Navies
- "Eastern Mediterranean Sea Pirates" - Beleares - 38 triremes

Last edited by Micha on 11-02-2005 at 01:21

	25-01-2005 03:53									#3
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Wait a minute, how does Rome have hoplites? Check the Apaulian Guards.

In any case, I'm willing to settle for the border on the map right now, if I can get a bit of the income from the mines at Attus.

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	25-01-2005 04:38									#4
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quote: - [Magna Graecia] "Apulian Guards" - north of Padus River - 3,745 hoplites

Yes? As you can see, the unit belongs to Magna Graecia, but is under Roman control. That´s why it includes hoplites

	25-01-2005 04:49									#5
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Ah, that's what that means. Thanks Micha!

	25-01-2005 05:19									#6
	Got spare money?

The more the merrier.

	25-01-2005 05:27									#7
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Or not, if he's been banned.

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	25-01-2005 07:42									#8
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Persia Roolz!!!

	25-01-2005 08:21									#9
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quote: Originally posted by appleciders Or not, if he's been banned.

Tass isn't banned.


And, zOMG cartage is g0in to PWN u allz!!!one!!11111eleven

	25-01-2005 08:28									#10
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Then what's the little flashing logo that says "Banned- One Week" doing under his name?

	25-01-2005 08:45									#11
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I'm pretty sure that is just an avatar.

	25-01-2005 08:48									#12
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Oh. Wow.

	25-01-2005 11:56									#13
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Ha ha, lol.

We all pass through that innocent, and clueless newb stage, it is part of the learning process.

	26-01-2005 00:33									#14
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Yeah.... How do you tell that someone was banned, then?

	26-01-2005 00:38									#15
	Inflate your Upload Space

You can't.

	26-01-2005 00:39									#16
	Browse Apolyton AD-FREE

And when will the update be?

	26-01-2005 00:44									#17
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When glorious Roman Emperor Laurentius feels inspired enough to issue his orders...

Next update will be interesting, there´s something going on!

	26-01-2005 00:48									#18
	Put an end to popups!

Just let Carthage take over Rome, it's a win-win situation.

	26-01-2005 03:42									#19
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I might consider that. Include it in your orders then

	26-01-2005 04:54									#20
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Actually, General Hannibal was quite close to capturing Rome at one point.

	26-01-2005 05:31									#21
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Yeah, but look at the end result of the Punic wars.

	26-01-2005 05:34									#22
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

We don't like to talk about that.

	26-01-2005 07:37									#23
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I'll bet.

Does Laurentius know this has been restarted? I don't think he's posted since his sarcastic one about how the thread was dead. And what about Tass, he's still in as Athens, right?

	26-01-2005 08:04									#24
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And he hasn't joined my NES either.

	26-01-2005 08:41									#25
	Tired of ads?

Well, he's not in any particular danger of being crushed. I say if he's not back in the next 48 hours, we update and back his income.

	26-01-2005 13:27									#26
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Laurentius was busy yesterday. I have talked to him via MSN, he said his orders will come in on Wednesday (today). If I don´t have orders by then, I will have to move on... Though it will be a pain in the @ss for him, for half his army is dead and there´s some surprise coming soon...

	26-01-2005 21:36									#27
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Just a note:

Please don´t forget to include this in your orders:
- Do you want your army to win at all costs, or to pull back when casualties become too high?
- Do you want specific towns to be taken, to be plundered or to be razed?

The more detailed your orders, the better the outcome
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Laurentius, please send in your orders until Thursday 10am GMT. I will start the update by then no matter what.

	26-01-2005 22:25									#28
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Hey! What is this talk of Carthage challenging Rome?!! Someone trying to picjk up a fight, eh?

Mes apologies, I have been quite busy IRL in the last few days. The Roman poin....no...orders will be here shortly.

	27-01-2005 01:30									#29
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[OOC]Received orders from everybody now! Expect an update tomorrow![/OOC]

Egyptian townsmen tell the Pharao about a strange observation:
Southern tribes have decapitated an obviously Carthaginian messenger and sent the head to Thebes; They seemed to believe it was an Egyptian again... Maybe Carthage seeks involvement in this area...

	27-01-2005 02:18									#30
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Rome to Liguria

We are terrible sorry for your loss. They have not crossed to Elysium in vain. As we promised we the Romans are not to be messed with. We will teach them how to read without eyes, how to hear without ears and how to speak without a tung. The Celts are savages and they will not be shown any mercy.

Due to the bravery of your people the Senate has decided to give you all Roman citizenship right away and are honoured to welcome the Ligurians to the Roman Republic.

We have sent standards to your city and are reorganising your army into a hardcore Roman legion. This legion is going to be called Legion V "Liguria". and is to be commanded jointly by its former commander Vappa Monterus together with Lucius Maximus who will train you the basics of legionary warfare.