31-01-2005 02:32									#31
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous That's a terrible arugment. Why is it wrong to assault someone when they're 18 but ok when they're 17 or 16?

It would have been wrong to do it at any age. When i said thegirl was 18 i was trying to say the punishment should have been taken to her rather then her mom. And before asked bout the juvinille system here the school that these kids are sent to are basicly the same as the jails they are housed in.

	31-01-2005 02:33									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos What is hickish? Please define, beacause as of right now you have just shown yourself to be a biggoted steriotyper. I guess it is okay for me to say poor and black are synonomous.

How is it a stereotype when it was just shown to be correct?

People from the southern US generally condone corporal punishment, end of story.

It is a generalization, you can't say everyone is. But the culture accepts it, and therefore it's a hickish culture.

	31-01-2005 02:33									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski I agree with you if this school was part of the juvenille justice however this student just left a campus to get breakfast.

the reasons don't matter.

Schools don't allow students to leave for a reason. For their own safety (and to protect themselves from lawsuits). Recently 3 girls died in a traffic accident when they left school to get lunch. This was commonly allowed in my city. Kids would usually go out and get fast food for lunch. Not anymore.

	31-01-2005 02:34									#34
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos What is hickish? Please define, beacause as of right now you have just shown yourself to be a biggoted steriotyper. I guess it is okay for me to say poor and black are synonomous.

He has shown that a lot recently.

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	31-01-2005 02:34									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Sure it is, but then I'm not gay and you aren't a smoker.

Calling somebody an idiot and threatening to out them to their parents are in no way comparable.

You also should know from past history how terrible such a comment to make is, and you should also know the person who made it was punished as well. You will be, too.

	31-01-2005 02:35									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Asher How is it a stereotype when it was just shown to be correct? People from the southern US generally condone corporal punishment, end of story. It is a generalization, you can't say everyone is. But the culture accepts it, and therefore it's a hickish culture.

So Massachusetts is a gay culture because they allow gay marriage?

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	31-01-2005 02:35									#37
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quote: She says the beating she received for leaving campus to get breakfast was so severe she had to go to the emergency room.

SHE says she had to go to the emergency room. I could go to the hospital right now and demand they put me in a full body cast because I think I need it. I assure you I don't, but it would help with my lawsuit.

She is obviously a pansy anyways.

quote: So I take it you don't consider yourself to be rational

Ah insults, the first sign that someone knows they are wrong

	31-01-2005 02:35									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Asher So I take it you don't consider yourself to be rational? quote: She says the beating she received for leaving campus to get breakfast was so severe she had to go to the emergency room. That's abuse, not punishment.

you don't really believe she had to go to the emergency room do you. .

	31-01-2005 02:36									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Calling somebody an idiot and threatening to out them to their parents are in no way comparable. You also should know from past history how terrible such a comment to make is, and you should also know the person who made it was punished as well. You will be, too.

So be it.

But you should be banned as well for trolling this thread.

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	31-01-2005 02:36									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski So Massachusetts is a gay culture because they allow gay marriage? ACK!

No, they're a liberal culture because they allow gay marriage.

Allowing gay marriage is part of the "liberal" generalization, beating kids in school with paddles is part of the "hick" generalization.

	31-01-2005 02:37									#41
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quote: Failure at what, dicipline. Does that mean I have failed if I have to use grounding? Yelling? No dinner? It is simply another tool. One that obviously is used enough in this day and age.

Pat: When you spank someone, you are inflicting pain. When you ground someone, you are taking away a priveledge.

Safety from physical pain is not a priviledge. Your father was wrong and failed at what he did just as my grandfather did.

	31-01-2005 02:37									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski So be it. But you should be banned as well for trolling this thread. ACK!

I should be banned for saying people who support beating kids with paddles in schools are hicks? Get real.

	31-01-2005 02:37									#43
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Corporal punishment is not one that i believe in. Nor do our schools here.(public that is). Imentioned earlier that if we as parents spank our kids we can get charged with child abuse. The states have taken alot of discpline methods out of the parents hands. The point im getting at is the girl was 18 an adult the principle shoul have been charged with assault and thrown in jail.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher No, they're a liberal culture because they allow gay marriage. Allowing gay marriage is part of the "liberal" generalization, beating kids in school with paddles is part of the "hick" generalization.

Which are both erroneous.

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	31-01-2005 02:38									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident you don't really believe she had to go to the emergency room do you. .

Diss the girl did she put one of her hands back to block one blow and ended up with a cast on her arm

	31-01-2005 02:39									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I should be banned for saying people who support beating kids with paddles in schools are hicks? Get real.

You said what you said to get a rise out of my wife....that is trolling.

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	31-01-2005 02:39									#47
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Which are both erroneous. ACK!

You really don't think Massachusetts can be generalized to have a liberal culture?

	31-01-2005 02:40									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Corporal punishment is not one that i believe in. Nor do our schools here.(public that is). Imentioned earlier that if we as parents spank our kids we can get charged with child abuse. The states have taken alot of discpline methods out of the parents hands. The point im getting at is the girl was 18 an adult the principle shoul have been charged with assault and thrown in jail.

her age doesn't matter. She's a student. Plain and simple. She obviously doesn't have the emotional maturity of an adult anywas.

	31-01-2005 02:40									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski You said what you said to get a rise out of my wife....that is trolling. ACK!

Even if it was: trolling is not forbidden, deep personal attacks and threats are.

	31-01-2005 02:41									#50
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quote: How is it a stereotype when it was just shown to be correct? People from the southern US generally condone corporal punishment, end of story. It is a generalization, you can't say everyone is. But the culture accepts it, and therefore it's a hickish culture.

Well I am glad your criteria for evidence is so "liberal," I only have to supply on example and it applies universally.

So I saw Real Sex the other day, and using the above I know that all gay peole, including you, are wearing black leather crotchless pants, have a ball gag in, are slowly pulling out butt plugs.

	31-01-2005 02:41									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Diss the girl did she put one of her hands back to block one blow and ended up with a cast on her arm

you have never heard of quack doctors who are under the payroll of lawyers.

I bet you she called her lawyer before she went to the emergency room, and was treated by a "special" doctor.

	31-01-2005 02:42									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos So I saw Real Sex the other day, and using the above I know that all gay peole, including you, are wearing black leather crotchless pants, have a ball gag in, are slowly pulling out butt plugs.

That is the stereotype, isn't it?

The difference being I'm avoiding that stereotype (it's not me), but here you are supporting beating children, basking in it.

	31-01-2005 02:42									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident her age doesn't matter. She's a student. Plain and simple. She obviously doesn't have the emotional maturity of an adult anywas.

Her age doesn't matter? So then laws should stop at the classroom door? She should be considered an adult everywhere except in school?

	31-01-2005 02:42									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Asher You really don't think Massachusetts can be generalized to have a liberal culture?

Don't know, I haven't lived there. I would hate to say something about a place that was mistaken.

The part you don't seem to understand:

If SA has a hick culture, why did this make the san antonio paper?

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	31-01-2005 02:43									#55
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Because it's an interesting legal case because she's an adult and was beaten with only parental consent?

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident her age doesn't matter. She's a student. Plain and simple. She obviously doesn't have the emotional maturity of an adult anywas.

Are you going to say to me that an 18 year old doesnt have the right to say she can or not be assaulted? She pays to go to this school like you would if you were in college. If some instructer took you aside cause you left campus to get breakfast and you are 18 you should get paddled with out no say so?

	31-01-2005 02:44									#57
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It just makes me laugh that they actually had to look up documentation in order to purposefully inflict pain...

	31-01-2005 02:46									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Because it's an interesting legal case because she's an adult and was beaten with only parental consent?

But us hicks don't care 'bout no legal stuff.

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	31-01-2005 02:46									#59
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asher she was taken to the county hospital there is no special drs there that concern themselves with lawyers. Most of them are last year residents. Being supervised by doctors.

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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski But us hicks don't care 'bout no legal stuff. ACK!

Sure you do, you use the legal system to force your moral beliefs on others.