31-01-2005 02:47									#61
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quote: Pat: When you spank someone, you are inflicting pain. When you ground someone, you are taking away a priveledge. Safety from physical pain is not a priviledge. Your father was wrong and failed at what he did just as my grandfather did.

So says you.

	31-01-2005 02:49									#62
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Sure you do, you use the legal system to force your moral beliefs on others.

Gay rights just suddenly became universally accepted?

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	31-01-2005 02:50									#63
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Gay rights just suddenly became universally accepted? ACK!

I wish, last I checked even gay sex was still illegal in your "non-hick" city.

	31-01-2005 02:51									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Are you going to say to me that an 18 year old doesnt have the right to say she can or not be assaulted? She pays to go to this school like you would if you were in college. If some instructer took you aside cause you left campus to get breakfast and you are 18 you should get paddled with out no say so?

first it's not college. And second it's not assault. If it was assault, then you could charge them with assault on the other students as well.

	31-01-2005 02:51									#65
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quote: The difference being I'm avoiding that stereotype (it's not me), but here you are supporting beating children, basking in it.

Yep thats it, IM BASKING IN IT. Obviously you weren't beat enough as a kid, you might not have ended up as such a twit

	31-01-2005 02:52									#66
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just to answer the question of what a hick is I dont know the websters version but i can tell you the version people use to distinguish one. A hick is a person usually from a small town that has backwords beliefs and education. The term is usuallly used as an insult to sterotype people from one city that generalizes them inot all one group. Basicly saying they are uneducated and dumb that dont follow the beliefs and things as other civilized folks.

	31-01-2005 02:53									#67
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos Yep thats it, IM BASKING IN IT. Obviously you weren't beat enough as a kid, you might not have ended up as such a twit

Maybe if they beat me more I could be a fine upstanding citzen such as yourself, letting their teachers smack them around with a paddle for getting breakfast off school property.

	31-01-2005 02:53									#68
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I wish, last I checked even gay sex was still illegal in your "non-hick" city.

It never will be universally accepted. Your problem is that unless it concerns you directly, it's only worthy of contempt.

And that is contemptible.

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	31-01-2005 02:55									#69
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I wish, last I checked even gay sex was still illegal in your "non-hick" city.

yep, sodomy is still illegal in that state.

	31-01-2005 02:55									#70
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident first it's not college. And second it's not assault. If it was assault, then you could charge them with assault on the other students as well.

Getting beaten when you are 18 is assault. Under 18, with parents permission is not assault.

Parental permission does not carry over to adulthood.

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	31-01-2005 02:56									#71
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski It never will be universally accepted. Your problem is that unless it concerns you directly, it's only worthy of contempt. And that is contemptible. ACK!

That's not true -- I'm opposed to all racism and sexism, and neither of those affect me as a white male.

You're just upset that I hold smokers responsible for their own fate, for choosing to smoke. And I consider discrimination against people for their actions to be acceptable -- criminals, smokers, pedophiles, meth addicts, etc.

	31-01-2005 02:56									#72
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Maybe if they beat me more I could be a fine upstanding citzen such as yourself, letting their teachers smack them around with a paddle for getting breakfast off school property.

see my post about students leavin campus. It's for their own security. Between school shootings and adults kidnapping abusing children, schools have to enforce this.

	31-01-2005 02:56									#73
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident first it's not college. And second it's not assault. If it was assault, then you could charge them with assault on the other students as well.

This is were your wrong in the schools here if you touch a child or even if another child touches another child it is considered assault. When i say touch i mean in a threatning way. And if various body parts are involved its called sexual assault. i.e if your clowning around and you grab the pants off another student not really ur friend and pull them down you as the student who did it can and will be charged with sexual assault on another student.

	31-01-2005 02:57									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Getting beaten when you are 18 is assault. Under 18, with parents permission is not assault. Parental permission does not carry over to adulthood. ACK!

that's just dumb. So if I have a parents permission, I can punch some 6 year old and break his nose and his jaw?

	31-01-2005 02:57									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident yep, sodomy is still illegal in that state.

Oh I see now, this state should change their laws because other states allow buggery.

Poor Texas doesn't even have legalized brothels.

Because people don't agree with you, they are hicks.

Okay.

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	31-01-2005 02:58									#76
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quote: Maybe if they beat me more I could be a fine upstanding citzen such as yourself, letting their teachers smack them around with a paddle for getting breakfast off school property.

Negative, nice cover, she got paddled for leaving school property without permission.

People get fired from jobs for that, or in my case go to jail. But in this case the rule is there for her own protection at least. Would you feel better if she broke the rules to go buy some crack rocks?

	31-01-2005 02:58									#77
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Last time i checked sodomy was illegal in a lot of states.

	31-01-2005 02:59									#78
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quote: Originally posted by Patroklos Negative, nice cover, she got paddled for leaving school property without permission. People get fired from jobs for that, or in my case go to jail. But in this case the rule is there for her own protection at least. Would you feel better if she broke the rules to go buy some crack rocks?

Let me get this straight -- she gets a beating worthy of a hospital admission for her own safety and protection?

I understand the rules for keeping the kids on-property, but you don't beat them "for their safety".

	31-01-2005 03:00									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Last time i checked sodomy was illegal in a lot of states.

Last time I checked a lot of states voted for Bush, too.

Doesn't make it okay, nor does it prevent them from being hicks.

	31-01-2005 03:00									#80
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident that's just dumb. So if I have a parents permission, I can punch some 6 year old and break his nose and his jaw?

Sure you can, but that isn't corporeal punishment is it?

You and the parents will go to jail.

Whether you agree with it or not, corporeal punishment is legal.

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	31-01-2005 03:01									#81
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Last time I checked sodomy isn't illegal in any state due to the decision of the Supreme Court.

	31-01-2005 03:03									#82
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Oh I see now, this state should change their laws because other states allow buggery. Poor Texas doesn't even have legalized brothels. Because people don't agree with you, they are hicks. Okay. ACK!

I'm not the one who used the word hick. Don't confuse me with Asher.

though now that you mention it. I wouldn't call them hicks, but rednecks.

	31-01-2005 03:03									#83
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Whether you agree with it or not, corporeal punishment is legal.

Whether you agree with it or not...uh, not agreeing with it leads to LAWS CHANGING.

If enough people don't agree with it, it will be changed.

Huh...I guess that backs up Asher's argument

	31-01-2005 03:03									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Last time i checked sodomy was illegal in a lot of states.

yeah, all the hick/redneck ones.

	31-01-2005 03:03									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Asher That's not true -- I'm opposed to all racism and sexism, and neither of those affect me as a white male. You're just upset that I hold smokers responsible for their own fate, for choosing to smoke. And I consider discrimination against people for their actions to be acceptable -- criminals, smokers, pedophiles, meth addicts, etc.

Who said I'm upset?

A lot of people could say the same thing about gay sex. I think, personally, it's disgusting.

Which, simply put, means I don't do it. But I've never called you an idiot because you do.

I think you should have the right to do it, since it doesn't involve me.

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	31-01-2005 03:04									#86
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If it makes some people happy to believe im a hick fine so be it. I know who and what i am. This isnt about hicks this is about whether the girl is in the right to file charges and sue these people that assaulted her. Which if you ask me thats what they did. And to quote on this at the age of 18 you dont need anybodys permission to leave the school grounds. If you get kicked out because you do then thats your problem you shouldnt be hit.

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident I'm not the one who used the word hick. Don't confuse me with Asher. though now that you mention it. I wouldn't call them hicks, but rednecks.

That makes a big difference, here hick is derogatory, redneck isn't.



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	31-01-2005 03:05									#88
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Who said I'm upset? A lot of people could say the same thing about gay sex. I think, personally, it's disgusting. Which, simply put, means I don't do it. But I've never called you an idiot because you do. I think you should have the right to do it, since it doesn't involve me. ACK!

why is gay sex disgusting? It's only disgusting to people who have a secret yearning for it.

	31-01-2005 03:05									#89
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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski Who said I'm upset?

You would have to be to say something like you did in your first post.

quote: I think you should have the right to do it, since it doesn't involve me. ACK!

Your smoking does involve me until you stop using the same public health care or insurance companies as those of us smart enough to not smoke.

	31-01-2005 03:05									#90
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Well...even in massachusetts, we could leave school grounds at the age of 18...but we couldn't come back...