31-01-2005 05:04									#121
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The person doing the paddling should be shot.

	31-01-2005 05:12									#122
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I have now noticed the article posted on the internet is not as complete as the one in our original newspaper. It states that an educator can use corpral punishment w/o age discription with parental consent if the states ok this type of behavior. I argue the fact that as parents we can no longer swat our kids on the but but their teacher can? Am i missing something here?

	31-01-2005 05:49									#123
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A school should not be allowed to paddle/hit kids of any age.

I'm 31 and attended Catholic schools k-12 and they never paddled or hit anyone, no "paddling forms" either. Aside from suspension or detention, they simply called the parents and let them handle any additional punishment later. And this was in a red state.

The stereotypes and generalizations in this thread are absurd. I'm a straight white guy & have seen more corruption, sexism, discrimination, homophobia and hate in my several years in this blue state I'm in now. It would be silly to claim that's all because I'm in a blue state. I would provide real life examples, but that's not the topic of this thread.

	31-01-2005 05:53									#124
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In a Korean school a while back a girl used her cellphone camera to record her teacher punch her female classmate hard in the face.

The teacher took a few months unpaid leave and then went back to teaching. Americans don't have too much right to complain...

	31-01-2005 06:09									#125
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I agree things are worse in some other countries, but things can still be better here too.

	31-01-2005 07:06									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Whoha It works, its expedient, and sometimes It is the only thing that works. There are just some ****ed up kids and yes I was one of them.

but it is improper for over the age of 10, I would say

JM

	31-01-2005 07:30									#127
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quote: and boys must open doors and pull out chairs for their female peers.

Goddamn Male Chauvinazi Americans.

	31-01-2005 07:45									#128
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Forced Chivalry:

Those of us who are chivalrous of our own accord:

	31-01-2005 07:55									#129
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Just for the record I must say this practice of what i have described is not going on in any public state school here. This school is a charter which is not goverernd by any school districts. and E.F I agree for those men out there that want to act this way is very much appreciated, by me at least. If you dont act this way, i believe im more then capable of opening my own door and pulling out my own chair.

	31-01-2005 07:57									#130
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous Forced Chivalry: Those of us who are chivalrous of our own accord:

	31-01-2005 09:52									#131
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In California these "educators" would have been arrested and likely would end up in a jail cell with bubba. I'm afraid so many red states are so backwards it is unbelievable.

	31-01-2005 10:03									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin In California these "educators" would have been arrested and likely would end up in a jail cell with bubba. I'm afraid so many red states are so backwards it is unbelievable.

These Educators should be in jail i dont care if they come from a red state or a blue state. The girl on the other hand i question if she should be awarded any monetary value due to this.

	31-01-2005 10:11									#133
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She likely will for no other reason then those "educators" were acting in an official capacity when they inflicted pain and suffering upon the plantiff.

	31-01-2005 10:13									#134
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What a screwed up school.

	31-01-2005 10:21									#135
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In the sue happy world we live in wouldnt it be nice that one person would be in this for just the mere principle of the matter.

	31-01-2005 10:26									#136
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That would be the police officers who arrest those "educators" and bubba who butt rapes them in jail who are just acting on principle.

	31-01-2005 21:28									#137
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident all the rules make sense except for the holding doors and pulling chairs for females. That's just sexist.

What's wrong with opening or holding a door for anyone?
If you only do it for hot 18 year olds then you have point, otherwise I see it as good upbringing.

	31-01-2005 21:57									#138
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quote: Originally posted by alva What's wrong with opening or holding a door for anyone? If you only do it for hot 18 year olds then you have point, otherwise I see it as good upbringing.

For a young man to do so for all females reflects good upbringing If they dont want to They shouldnt be forced to. I have two Boys my self and am teaching my older one who is 14 to do things such as these, and he does here in my presence however i cant be with him 24/ 7 so if he fails to else where i dont think i would call it bad.

	31-01-2005 22:57									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Boshko In a Korean school a while back a girl used her cellphone camera to record her teacher punch her female classmate hard in the face. The teacher took a few months unpaid leave and then went back to teaching. Americans don't have too much right to complain...

Why would americans have less right to complain because of something happening in Korea

	31-01-2005 23:34									#140
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by Nacht


Why would americans have less right to complain because of something happening in Korea [/QUOTE
While the incident that took place in korea was horrible, In an whole that was violence as was the incident reported here. I dont know korean law but in the states that type of activity wont nd shouldnt be tolerated.

	01-02-2005 02:54									#141
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski These Educators should be in jail i dont care if they come from a red state or a blue state. The girl on the other hand i question if she should be awarded any monetary value due to this.

What about hospital fees? Surely she shouldn't be expected to pay the fees for treating her because someone hit her. Plus if she had a job and couldn't work due to having a cast on her wrist, that would count as lost earnings. And that's without considering the pain and humiliation of it. Either way, it's one of the few case I think would deserve financial recompense.

	01-02-2005 04:11									#142
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue What about hospital fees? Surely she shouldn't be expected to pay the fees for treating her because someone hit her. Plus if she had a job and couldn't work due to having a cast on her wrist, that would count as lost earnings. And that's without considering the pain and humiliation of it. Either way, it's one of the few case I think would deserve financial recompense.

I have to admit your right. THank god I dont have to be the one to decide what her humiliation and pain and suffering are worth.

	01-02-2005 04:20									#143
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After reading this thread I think the lot of ya need to be paddled


The school ****ed up and will pay for it. She in turn will learn what it really takes to get along in America.

Some acting ability
Someone being stupid
And a number to the nearest law firm.

	01-02-2005 04:27									#144
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A sad case, but Sprayber seems exactly right. The US reminds me more and more of that dimension in Quantum Leap where 80% of the population are lawyers - one guy bumps into someone and says sorry, she sues, claiming that saying sorry is an admission of guilt, and wins. I'd like one simple rule to solve it - a case is only worthy of court time if the damages of the case would outweigh the costs of prosecuiting it. Therefore, if you want to sue someone, it has to be something serious enough to warrant paying the amount of money to prosecute it. Thus bumping into someone would be non-contestable, butdoing something that required hospitalization would, due to the costs of hospitalization that need recovering.

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I dont agree with the sue happy. The lawsuits have been freaking out of hand. Imagine some person goes to buy coffee at mcdonalds and ends up spilling it themselves how should they get millions for burns?

	01-02-2005 04:39									#146
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I don't blame the people who do it, I blame the system that allows it. It's important that people be allowed access to the courts to get legit damages but the questions becomes what needs to be done to limit the bad suits without restricting the ablity of legit ones being heard. I'm not a law expert by any means but the merits of her case will depend upon a jury or a judge I guess in some cases. She can't get a dime unless other people agree that what the school done was wrong. That will be left up to other people who have their own ideas and preconeived notions. I suppose that in the end that has to be enough because I can't think of any other way for it to be decided.

	01-02-2005 05:02									#147
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The system does suck but so do the people who use that system to become rich

	01-02-2005 05:24									#148
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quote: Originally posted by alva What's wrong with opening or holding a door for anyone? If you only do it for hot 18 year olds then you have point, otherwise I see it as good upbringing.

only the fact they do it just for girls.

Personally, I hold the door open for anyone no matter what gender they are. Though I have never pulled a chair out in my lifetime. That seems really old fashioned.

	01-02-2005 06:25									#149
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski Last time i checked sodomy was illegal in a lot of states.

It's not illegal in any state, not since SCOTUS struck down Texas's law.

	01-02-2005 06:30									#150
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I think children should be beaten until dead. It's for their own good. After all, if you don't kill them, how will they learn?