07-02-2005 22:44									#1
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Please post comments on the move thread here, not in the move thread. Thanks! - edited by Snoopy369


Another option is to have separate threads for each turn. That is the way it's done in the IDGs and the way I set it up in the demogame I was involved with at MZO.

One of the benefits of this is that it is very easy to find and discuss options about that particular turn. Then we have a thread that is for compilation (i.e. links) to each turn thread.

Another thing is how we want to set up the jobs for each person (whomever wants one). In Vox I ended up doing everything and it got to the point after a while where I just did the turn and posted about it later without any prior discussion. A specific thread per turn would allow both discussion about potential moves before each turn as well as having the first post be available for all ministers to edit in their turn orders (one of the benefits of the way private forums work).

Last edited by snoopy369 on 18-02-2005 at 05:29

	08-02-2005 02:23									#2
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wow... that's quite an effort

	08-02-2005 02:41									#3
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We don't necessarily have to do all of the turn report info if we don't want to. The demographics and top 5 cities report is very useful for predicting trends, who is doing what, etc. but that's about it. The treasury portion is useful for knowing how long it will be until our tech is finished research so we can shave off portions of the slider here and there, but the rest of it is straight from the F1 screen and more for those people that want to browse and don't have access to the save.

What I'm mainly interested in having is the turn by turn breakdown of what we're going to do and editable by the ministers (whomever they are) before the turn is actually played.

	08-02-2005 06:19									#4
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Hmm... that might get into a lot of threads, though, yes? Although i guess it all gets archived in the end anywho.

Turnbyturn threads sound good to me. And then a turn report thread, as you say...

	12-02-2005 09:29									#5
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Seeing how I am still educating myself on the use of the numbers for movement.

Question: Once a unit makes a move, the number system resets itself on the unit being "5"

789
456
123

turn 1: a unit moves 9
turn 2: same unit (sitting on 5) moves 8

do I have this concept right?

	12-02-2005 09:40									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Platypus Rex Seeing how I am still educating myself on the use of the numbers for movement. Question: Once a unit makes a move, the number system resets itself on the unit being "5" 789 456 123 turn 1: a unit moves 9 turn 2: same unit (sitting on 5) moves 8 do I have this concept right?

Yes. And you can say them in a row - ie Move the unit 98 means move it 9 then move it 8.

	15-02-2005 04:45									#7
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Don't forget to post here at least the link to the turn report so we can find it easily The rest is unnecessary except for when you have time (perhaps every 5-10 turns would be nice), but at least the turn report so we can easily reference it.

Turn Report, 3900 BC

	17-02-2005 19:30									#8
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Sorry about it all, but there's no way that this is going to be very helpfull with all those posts. I porpose to open a new (topped) thread, where no comments will be posted just the turn by turn actions. And then just let this one go..

	17-02-2005 22:21									#9
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I agree. And label it in the title as "Do not post comments here" so it's only the turn reports. We can just transfer the existing turn reports over.

	18-02-2005 05:27									#10
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Or I can split the thread.

	18-02-2005 05:37									#11
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McM, can you post the 'final actions' of the turn in the orders thread (rather than in the next turn's orders thread)?

ie 3800bc Orders will have the final actions of 3800 bc in it.

Either edited into the first post, or as a final post?

	18-02-2005 05:45									#12
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 Or I can split the thread.

The powuhh has gone to his head!

	18-02-2005 15:35									#13
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quote: Originally posted by snoopy369 McM, can you post the 'final actions' of the turn in the orders thread (rather than in the next turn's orders thread)? ie 3800bc Orders will have the final actions of 3800 bc in it. Either edited into the first post, or as a final post?

Probably it's just as easy to do it with the names in links.

4000 BC
3950 BC
3900 BC
3850 BC

If eddited in the first post of a topped thread, this should work well. Reporting first what happened last turn to initiate the next turns orders seems logic to me.

	18-02-2005 22:30									#14
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Doing both would work too. That way we'll have it at the top of the next turn orders thread, but we'll also have one thread devoted to just what happened so you don't have to click endless links to follow the progression of turns (or wade through endless commentary like in Vox and yes Snoop I know I was a party to that ).

Having one thread devoted only to the turn reports helps endlessly when doing simming too (which I really intend to get around to once my internet is fixed tomorrow). It's hard to do simming without checking what has already been done.

	18-02-2005 23:15									#15
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All links are straigth to the requested information... With 1 exception all on top of a thread. Discussions start below these posts.
A workable situation to me.

	19-02-2005 06:10									#16
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quote: Originally posted by McMeadows Probably it's just as easy to do it with the names in links. If eddited in the first post of a topped thread, this should work well. Reporting first what happened last turn to initiate the next turns orders seems logic to me.

The problem is as Rhoth said it's better to only have to browse one thread when seeing the turn, and you will often have variations from the orders that weren't discussed (or weren't explicitly decided on) based on other players' actions... I personally find it easier to see the actions of 3800bc at the end of the 3800 bc turn thread, and then start anew for 3750 bc ... but that's just me.

Either way, in the other thread ("Moves, Vol I") should be a short turn summary (not the full turn report but a link to the turn report and a short summary of anything important that happened, particularly if anybody was attacked or sighted or cities founded, that sort of thing) for each post. In fact, I'd say having the final actions in that post (then you can do whatever you want with the turn thread, put them in there too if you want) it can make it a lot easier to follow ... Rhoth, sort of like what Vox does but without the discussion between it, is that okay do you think? McM, I imagine you're trying to limit the work you have to do after already playing the turn (which is quite understandable, i'm sure Rhoth will empathise ), but I think this shouldn't take long really, just one post in that thread with the link to the turn thread ... and it would be more organized, I think ? Sort of something I wish Vox had done more religiously (had a just-moves thread, that when I joined I could have read and just seen the moves and nothing else, so I could easily have understood the actions the team took...)

	19-02-2005 12:35									#17
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I really don't understand what you're implying. I proposed to use links, then you say no and you say you want to use links..???

With all powers given to you, you can make it happen. I'll follow.

	19-02-2005 20:43									#18
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hehe ... i'm sick so i'm probably not making any sense, after all I have a hard enough time making sense anyway ...

I may well have been misunderstanding what you wanted to do, as well. What I was suggesting, anywho, was to have individual posts for each turn, in the Moves: Volume X thread, with vital info and a link to the turn discussion thread. I interpreted you as wanting a single *post* with all of these links ... but as I said i'm a bit woozy and not in full control of my senses ...

	22-02-2005 22:46									#19
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Whichever way you guys want to do it is fine with me.

BTW, looks like a lot happened while I was gone this weekend. Well, not gone, just that my stupid internet provider STILL hasn't fixed my internet.

	24-02-2005 07:01									#20
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<< offers to mail Rhoth an extra internal 56k modem if he needs it in the interim ... pretty sure it works anywho

	24-02-2005 10:08									#21
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It seems to be working again...finally...since I'm posting this from home.

	25-02-2005 06:23									#22
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Sounds good.