19-02-2005 09:54									#61
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Yeah, crank is speed and it's out of control in rural California. Hell, I have a good friend I've known since grade school who can't kick the habit even after years of trying. He's been arrested for it a number of times, they let him out on parole, he pisses hot, they send him back to jail... Repeat ad nosium.

	19-02-2005 09:56									#62
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My wife was hooked on crank when we first met. Not like I was any better as a pot head and acid tripper... We are both clean now, and have been for years, but it took a lot of effor for us to get ourselves clean.

	19-02-2005 09:58									#63
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I've never understood the attraction of stims. I hate bein' all jumpy and full of energy.

	19-02-2005 10:21									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious I gave up on the divorce after my tempory custody got denied. I think I should have went through with it and then ask the judge to order her to take a drug test and psychological exam.

Stupid question, did you use a lawyer for your custody hearing? if yes get a better one. the law has nothing to do with justice, only with how has the best lawyer. have been through a divorce and custody, so i cam sympathise.

	19-02-2005 12:39									#65
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Crank, not crack.

Still shows up in your hair, IIRC.

	19-02-2005 13:26									#66
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And in the house.

In affordable housing, a big problem is residual meth from former meth labs. The meth sticks around and contaminates the building and people get sick. Smoking it isn't quite as bad as the manufacturing process but leaves behind chemicals as well. So, get a friend to visit, have him or her complain about the toxins, and get the place searched.

	19-02-2005 13:27									#67
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Also, and I suspect you didn't want to hear this, crank puts your little boy more at risk (forgive me, I tend to think in technical terms due to my wife - we keep three DSM-IV's in the house). Google Methamphetimine psychosis. It's not pretty. Definitely do the background research, find the fellow sex partners/user, and find who will talk to CPS. Also use the resouces as recommended by the other posters.

Anytime you get your boy after he has been alone with your wife, examine him for bruises. Talk to counselors at your college to see how to deal with this, I have absolutely no idea how to deal with this in the context of a six year old. If you see any bruises, at any point, call the police. You must protect yourself in this case, since you have yelled at her, if there are any witnesses you could end up being the person the system tries to blame. Be careful, and good luck to all of you.

	20-02-2005 06:41									#68
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Thanx again everyone. I'll keep you informed.

	20-02-2005 13:52									#69
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara I've never understood the attraction of stims. I hate bein' all jumpy and full of energy.

My ex always claimed it helped her be more productive. Staying up for 4 days at a time and crashing when she didnt have any more meth. Of course she dropped about 40 lbs and looked like she was starving to death. Finally her vainity won out and the thought of wasting away into nothing forced her to get help.


It's a ****ing waste It was worse than having them die suddenly in a car accident. Just wasting away.

	20-02-2005 13:56									#70
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So sorry to hear about this Kid. As you know more than anyone, your son is more important than her. I don't have any legal advice. I do know that in similar situations one or both sets of grandsparents stepped in and took the child when the courts couldnt decide which parent was best. Is there any reason to expect any help from her parents or your own.


In my cousins case he married and later on when his wife was pregnant she started using drugs and at the time the courts simply would not give his daughter after she was born over to him even though he was not into drugs, so in order to remove her from his wife's reach my aunt and uncle stepped in and hired a lawyer and won custody. That was 16 years ago and she still under my aunts guardenship. In another case both parents were unfit and using drugs so the mother and father of the male was asked to get involved and now have custody.

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	22-02-2005 07:03									#71
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Ok. I got the hair from that disgusting *****. She tried to hug me. After I pushed her away she started in on me. Then she called the guy over that she's ****ing. He looks like he just got out of prison. He acts even more like he just got out of prison. He was trying to start a fight. I just told him that I don't give a **** about him, and that she's cheated on me with some many people that I really don't care anymore. What a ****ing whore she is. Anyway what do I do with the hair. I don't have a lawyer yet.

Sprayber,

I don't know of anyone in my family who would take custody of him, but I really do just want to make sure that he is safe from her.

	22-02-2005 07:34									#72
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Get your son! He may not be aware of all the details today, but he will thank you immensely in a few years.

	22-02-2005 10:24									#73
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All this advice, first of all kid nobody is going to accept your word that that hair you pulled came out of her head. If you cant for what ever reason raise your child on your own, you might be sol if you cant prove she is a druggie. Im not sure what state your from but all the laws differ. The one thing you can do is get cps involved and let them handle the rest ,if you cant take the child, The worst, he goes to foster care for a bit then somebody in your family if not you can get him.
You taking her hair and testing it yourself is gonna be inadmissiable in court.

	22-02-2005 10:42									#74
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Thanx Mrs. Tuberski. I figured that. I'm pretty sure she has stuff in her past. Her parents have custody of her first child. I don't have any contact with them, but I'm pretty sure that they have custody of her first child because she has a very ugly past. I just need to hire a private investigator and a lawyer. I don't care if I have to steal to get the money.

	22-02-2005 10:49									#75
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quote: I just need to hire a private investigator and a lawyer.

Can you? If you need, let me recommend you some, I have friends who may be able to help. One of my good friend's dad retired a few years ago, he was the head of fureinsics for the Fresno PD. Also, I have another friend who is a P.I... The hair may help, it may not be able to be used to convict her for anything, but it may be able to be used for other things... like finding out what drugs she is on and who is supplying her with them.

	22-02-2005 10:51									#76
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How could you find out who is supplying her?

	22-02-2005 10:53									#77
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I told her today I was getting a lawyer and that made her scared. She definitely has something to hide.

	22-02-2005 10:53									#78
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One thing i forgot to ask Kid are you in college?, if you are there might be resources from your campus like social workers that can help get your child out of the enviorment he is in.

	22-02-2005 10:56									#79
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Yeah. I'm going to check into that tomorrow.

	22-02-2005 10:57									#80
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Sounds like you married a winner.

	22-02-2005 11:02									#81
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School resources are cheap if not free some campuses have graudetes waiting to be lawyers and need experince, they are supervised by real lawyers so dont worry bout that. But do call c.p.s. they will do a lot of your leg work and you may not need a lawyer or P.I.

	22-02-2005 11:07									#82
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CPS sucks. All they do is send someone over to the house. They check the fridge. That's it.

	22-02-2005 11:13									#83
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Really? In my state I was investigated cause my kid had a black eye, which he got from jumping on the bed and fell the caseworker hunted my ass down and did more then check my fridge.

	22-02-2005 11:16									#84
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Maybe that's different. If they see a black eye they will do more. If the ex husband calls they don't tend to do much I think.

	22-02-2005 11:17									#85
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quote: How could you find out who is supplying her?

PIs do some amazing things. Especially in the area you were in she is either getting it out of Kettleman City which is like 5 ppl or Paso Robles, which ain't much bigger. PIs tend to follow ppl too. It ain't about finding the supplier to bust them, mind you, it's about getting your get back. PIs may want to do both, but first thing first.

CPS, I agree with kid.

	22-02-2005 11:18									#86
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You know the ****ed up thing is that I make sure the fridge is full. That's not what I called them for. ****.

	22-02-2005 11:19									#87
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Man, Kid, this is a bad situation. There;s nothing I can say that others haven't said yet so take their advice and hang in there. Your son needs a stable role model in his life, you owe him that much.

Best wishes to you

	22-02-2005 11:26									#88
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There is some reason why she doesn't have custody of her first child. I'm pretty sure I only have to find out what that is. It's probably court record. The PI shouldn't be too expensive.

Thanx Barinthus.

	22-02-2005 11:44									#89
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In todays courts The p.i. evidence is not admissable in court either. at least not in texas. It may be where your from. Child custody cases are hard. and for all of you guys who dont know this, the ladies drug of choice is out of her system in 24 to 48 hours if its crank or crack. For warning is not good when trying to prove the chick a druggie.
neither can you bring up evidence from the first kid it doesnt help much. All she has to say was she was young dumb and stupid. and know doesnt want to draw the kid back out of a stable life making her look like an angel.

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Kid,

First stop is to get a lawyer. He'll know what is legal in your state and have a good idea how to procede. It will save you a lot of running back and forth. Try legal aid if you're too poor to hire a lawyer, my girlfriend volunteers for them and they handle a lot of this stuff.