24-04-2005 14:59									#121
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Non-state religion increases the stability costs largely. As you said, the RR is also lowered. But remember that it's easier to play, less costly in terms of military and gives you less headaches if you choose to build tax collectors(which gives you 75% more of maximum tax, on top of 0% base if non shield province and 25% if shield province, ie 75% or 100% depending on that. Also remember that every province you have gives you higher stab costs, and you'll need those ducats).

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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark How do you sequence developments in conquered new world pagan provinces - improvements first, or conversion first? and why?.

Always, always, always convert first. The conversion chance is decreased by improvements (tax collectors, governors, fine arts academies, etc) so you will be making your life harder unless you convert them first. Also if you get the provience converts event then it converts but its culture doesn't change. You want to use missionaries to convert it ASAP so you get the cultural conversion as well.

	24-04-2005 20:25									#123
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Non-state religious provinces have a -30% on taxes and production. Converstion is the most important thing you can do after adding a tax collector.

Didn't know that adding a tax collector decreases the conversion chance though. Still, I ain't waiting. That -75% tax income is serious for the Ottomans, which is just about the only group I play, mainly to test my mods.

	24-04-2005 20:41									#124
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quote: Originally posted by General Ludd I can rarely hold a monopoly for more than a couple months, unless it's in some real far away exotic location that has almost no competition at all.

Use those extra diplomats to sign trade treaties with EVERYONE on the map. You can still compete away merchants from other people but the AI stops trying to bump your guys out.

	25-04-2005 03:04									#125
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You lose trade efficiency with those treaties.

	25-04-2005 03:41									#126
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Are you sure? I haven't noticed it

	25-04-2005 04:20									#127
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Yes, they do. Though it's not a rediculously large amount, it does have an impact on the bottom line.

	25-04-2005 06:10									#128
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If I lose a little trade efficiency but can then maintain a perminent monoply which I don't have to redo every two months then I'm ahead.

	25-04-2005 14:52									#129
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Trade agreements do decrease your trade efficiency, but not as badly as embargoing someone. I don't sign them because I usually play colonial powers and find it easy to maintain 5 merchants each in most of the european CoT's with high trade efficiency.

Even in the overseas CoT's where I have monopolies I don't bother competing others out as they keep coming back and it is possible to make plenty of money from the CoT's others don't know of or don't place in.

In my last game as France most of the N American trade was going to the Bahamas with a total value of over 2000 ducats. A 100% monopoly when it opened brought me all that in income. even when others started placing they never took more than 50% of the trade. A 100% monopoly in somewhere like Mauritius or one of the australian provinces can happily bring in 2-300 ducats a year until the CoT closes (and usually reopens nearby). No competition because no-one knows where it is to place merchants anyway.

As France I had a trade income of nearly 7500 ducats in 1818, mostly from colonial CoT's as I find most of the european Cot's are worth 5-600 each at most by around 1700, most worth less than that.

	04-05-2005 21:10									#130
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ok conversion first, thanks.

	16-05-2005 09:18									#131
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My game keeps shutting down at the same date each time (May 1 1757). I have replayed saving closer and closer to the date until now I have a save of April 30 and if I load it the games closes as soon as it switches from April 30 to May 1. I have a lot going on (at war, exploration both on land and sea, conversations, traders en route, moving and building units, promoting officials and building fortresses) but I'm not sure if that is the problem or not. I thought it might be a ram issue so on one of my attempts to restart I closed down a number of programs but with the same result (the program closed).

Any suggestions ?

Thanks,
* Sparrowhawk

	16-05-2005 10:02									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk My game keeps shutting down at the same date each time (May 1 1757). I have replayed saving closer and closer to the date until now I have a save of April 30 and if I load it the games closes as soon as it switches from April 30 to May 1. I have a lot going on (at war, exploration both on land and sea, conversations, traders en route, moving and building units, promoting officials and building fortresses) but I'm not sure if that is the problem or not. I thought it might be a ram issue so on one of my attempts to restart I closed down a number of programs but with the same result (the program closed). Any suggestions ? Thanks, * Sparrowhawk

I get this a lot.

Try loading the save, then imediately reloading that save again.

Try the old auto-save (1756, not 1757)(you do have annual auto-save enabled right?) and replay from that point and as above, load and then imediately reload the save.

	16-05-2005 11:14									#133
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quote: Originally posted by Sparrowhawk My game keeps shutting down at the same date each time (May 1 1757). I have replayed saving closer and closer to the date until now I have a save of April 30 and if I load it the games closes as soon as it switches from April 30 to May 1. I have a lot going on (at war, exploration both on land and sea, conversations, traders en route, moving and building units, promoting officials and building fortresses) but I'm not sure if that is the problem or not. I thought it might be a ram issue so on one of my attempts to restart I closed down a number of programs but with the same result (the program closed). Any suggestions ?

Load up your last save as another country (If you right-click on the shield you should get a list of all available nations). Play past date of crash. Save and reload as your original.
Warning: AI will stuff up your land-ship deployment severely if you leave it unattended for too long and has a tendency to declare wars/make peace at inconvenient moments with inconvenient nations - use with caution ... Make note of where your units are and what they're doing beforehand so you can undo it all afterwards.

	16-05-2005 12:13									#134
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I had to do something sort of similiar in my last game where I was playing sPain.

Sometime around 1450, Novgorod(only had capital left) was at war with Pskov(capital and Kexholm) who was also at war with Teutonic Knights. Novgorod and Teutonic knights weren't allied nor were they in the war against Pskov together.

Novgorod had occupied Kexholm and TK had occupied Pskov. This state of affairs remained unchanged for around 200 years when I had finally had enough. So I loaded a game where I changed to TK and offered a white peace to Pskov who then made peace with Novgorod. I wished I had done this earlier.

Now, the point of all this is that when the AI got hold of my mighty Spanish empire, it started 3 wars, spent a significant amount of my carefully saved money and totally screwed up my naval and land unit placements.

	16-05-2005 13:49									#135
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Yes, well, t'isn't recommended unless you're in really desperate straits.

Why on earth were you concerned about the Teutons and Novgorod if you were on the Iberian peninsula? WC attempt?

	16-05-2005 14:26									#136
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No matter which euro nation I am, I always end up playing balance of power politics. That situation was restricting Russia from being a counter balance to the monster Poland that developed which limited her growth onto the steppes. Austria was kept honest by a very successful OE and France encroaching on his western border with me slowly expanding through Italy.

	17-05-2005 01:48									#137
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I just got Europa Universalis 2 last night. I must say this world is big... and scary.

Played through the tutorial and started a game as Austria. Did some royal marriages and got into an alliance with Mantua and later Milan. Eventually went to war with Helvatia because of the temporary Casus Belli. I got the province Schwyz, and Helvatia as a vassal. I think I will start a new game though, because it was a bit of a shock to how big the game was.

What speed do you reccomend going on? I can't seem to find the right speed that is slow enough for me to catch the battles, but quick enough to avoid long amounts of downtime.

Edit: Oh yeah, and I waged the war with 50% support and was 16k over my support limit. Oops.

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	17-05-2005 05:10									#138
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quote: Originally posted by Gamecube64 What speed do you reccomend going on? I can't seem to find the right speed that is slow enough for me to catch the battles, but quick enough to avoid long amounts of downtime.

You can change the speed during the game by using ctrl+ and ctrl-

	17-05-2005 14:33									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Gamecube64 What speed do you reccomend going on? I can't seem to find the right speed that is slow enough for me to catch the battles, but quick enough to avoid long amounts of downtime.

For SP I find it easiest to run at extremely fast but to pause a lot. I set the pop up messages to pause when important things happen so I can go to check them (and watch a battle). It takes a while to fine tune the messages to what you want but is worth it (either do it as they come up or you can get at the choices through the menu screen).

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I'm playing Castile (now spain) and would like to know when I will inherit Aragon.

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quote: Originally posted by Gamecube64 I'm playing Castile (now spain) and would like to know when I will inherit Aragon.

Early 1500's

	18-05-2005 10:39									#142
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Hmmm, nothing seems to work now. I was able to shut down everything but explorer, system tray and run EU2, that got me past May 1st, but now the same thing happens July 1st.

quote: Originally posted by Qilue I get this a lot. Try loading the save, then imediately reloading that save again. Try the old auto-save (1756, not 1757)(you do have annual auto-save enabled right?) and replay from that point and as above, load and then imediately reload the save.

Okay, tried all of the above and it didn't work, but just to be sure, I am not sure i understood the steps. In the first suggestion...
1) Load the save right before the crash
2) Without unpausing the game at start up, reload the same save again

If that is correct it didn't work

second suggestion.....
1) Load the old auto-save (1756 in my case)
2) replay from that point until when???
3) load and then immediately reload the save

This one crashed January 01, 1757 while I was trying to replay (I turned autosave off before I started to replay), but maybe I was supposed to reload before that??

quote: Originally posted by ravagon Load up your last save as another country (If you right-click on the shield you should get a list of all available nations). Play past date of crash. Save and reload as your original. Warning: AI will stuff up your land-ship deployment severely if you leave it unattended for too long and has a tendency to declare wars/make peace at inconvenient moments with inconvenient nations - use with caution ... Make note of where your units are and what they're doing beforehand so you can undo it all afterwards.

Okay, I tried this first as Prussia (a county I am at war with, thinking that if Venice (me) offered peace I could decline ) but with the same result, game crashed/shut down July 1.

Then I tried with Apulia, thinking they were an out of the way do nothing country, and the game again crashed July 1.

I am getting frustrated, and more importantly suffering from withdrawal

Tempted to start a new game, but I would really like to finish this one, and if my new game resulted in the same result, not sure what i would do.

Also thinking about upgrading my RAM (only have 256, but one of the reasons I thought EU2 was a good game to get was that my dinosaur could run it). I will upgrade the RAM, but I would like to find out if that is the problem first, any ideas how I find that out beforehand?

* Sparrowhawk

	19-05-2005 07:25									#143
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Things are getting interesting in Spain...

In the early game there were couple of wars against Navarre and... the country that owns Gibralter. From these I got Gibralter and Navarre, Aragon got Bearne and Granada. Then everything was silent for atleast 60 years before a couple of wars in northern Africa. In the firstwar I crushed Algiers very quickly, making them my vassal and taking Tangier and Orania. In the second Moracco declared war on me. The catch is that I was in the middle of quelling rebellions from the Inquisition. My small band in Orania was quickly eliminated, though Portugal helped keep Tangiers in my control long enough for me to get my army into north Africa. Rebels fought off Moroccans in Orania, good people . Meanwhile I had to nearly double my current army size because my 13k were dwarfed compared to Morocco's army of 27k. Luckily I managed to get a huge regiment of cavalry into Tangier before they attacked, and won the day! Proceeded to seige a few provinces, in the end the Iberian Alliance (Portugal, Aragon, and I) was granted 75 ducats and Tassaret to Portugal.

Now the year is 1499. France, Genoa, Papal States, ans Siera declared war on Aragon. Portugal dishonored at first, but when I asked them to rejoin they did so gladly. I of course honored the alliance since Aragon is my devoted vassal and eventual inheritance. France is THE Euro superpower right now. We are in for a tough war. Also, a month or two after the war I got three explorers and a conquistador... how convienant right?

In other news I am the Holy Roman Emperor. How did that happen?