12-03-2005 21:55									#31
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No, you got pwned and are now trying to backtrack.

	12-03-2005 21:57									#32
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Ah, the children are trying to taunt I see Let us not have a pantomime eh?

	12-03-2005 22:03									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Not really, just DinoDoc on one of his usual trolls...

Que? If I was trolling I'd have called you a ****wit for being so stupid and been the first to mention the word pwn.

	12-03-2005 22:08									#34
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He's in denial now, DD.

	12-03-2005 22:13									#35
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It's like a right-wing lynchmob because you can't get your own way...

	12-03-2005 22:59									#36
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while I don't think PH got PWNED, he did get cuaght with his pants down so to speak...

sorry PH

	12-03-2005 23:05									#37
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Well it was more of a self-PWNing.

	12-03-2005 23:32									#38
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Given that Bush is for cutting farm subsidies (not food aid), just admit that you had not read the article and jumped to a conclusion based solely on your political biases. Try not to dig the hole further.

Now PH, I never got PWNed this badly...

	12-03-2005 23:34									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo Now PH, I never got PWNed this badly...

Well I wouldn't go that far .

Oh, and I wanted to save this quote for the next time you claim you've never been PWNed .

	12-03-2005 23:46									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Well I wouldn't go that far . Oh, and I wanted to save this quote for the next time you claim you've never been PWNed .

Oh this is far worse then anything that ever happened to me...

	12-03-2005 23:57									#41
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According to what I have read in one section, This is a question not a statement. Has bush proposed to take away food stamps from those who say recieve medicaid so to speak?Medicaid was an exaple you can through tanf or social security benefits in ther too since they are all goverment aid

	13-03-2005 00:09									#42
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As far as I know, Bush hasn't proposed taking food stamps away from anybody.

This is a dumb article because it overstates the amount of support there is in the congress for cutting food stamps. On the other hand, there's a lot of support (even from congressmen from farm states!) for cutting subsidies.

The congressmen with the minority position (cut food stamps) are trying their best to throw a wrench in the works. The article makes it sound as if the minority is actually the majority.

	13-03-2005 00:29									#43
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quote: Originally posted by DanS As far as I know, Bush hasn't proposed taking food stamps away from anybody. This is a dumb article because it overstates the amount of support there is in the congress for cutting food stamps. On the other hand, there's a lot of support (even from congressmen from farm states!) for cutting subsidies. The congressmen with the minority position (cut food stamps) are trying their best to throw a wrench in the works. The article makes it sound as if the minority is actually the majority.

quote: Bush is proposing to withdraw food stamps for certain families already receiving other government assistance. The administration estimates that plan would remove more than 300,000 people from the rolls and save $113 million annually.

This makes it sound like he (bush) does.

	13-03-2005 00:31									#44
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A farm subsidies cut will never pass, it would be political suicide for congresspeople from rural states or districts. Even if it did pass the House, the Senate would kill it because rural states are overrepresented.

	13-03-2005 00:31									#45
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You are right, the article does make it sound as if that's the case. I don't know the details there, obviously.

	13-03-2005 00:32									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski quote: Bush is proposing to withdraw food stamps for certain families already receiving other government assistance. The administration estimates that plan would remove more than 300,000 people from the rolls and save $113 million annually. This makes it sound like he (bush) does.

This plan is more sensible as these people already receive assistance from the government.. so I see nothing wrong with that.

	13-03-2005 00:33									#47
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quote: A farm subsidies cut will never pass, it would be political suicide for congresspeople from rural states or districts. Even if it did pass the House, the Senate would kill it because rural states are overrepresented.

Actually it has support of most of the reps from the Midwest farm states. Mostly, these cuts will come from the hide of the Southern and Californian corporate farmers.

	13-03-2005 00:40									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Giancarlo This plan is more sensible as these people already receive assistance from the government.. so I see nothing wrong with that.

I do For One say this poor family hs medicaid. lets take their food stamps away thast way the can go to the hospital for starvation. Or Lets say the recieve SSi lets take away thier food stamps so they can either decide to eat or live on the street for lack of cash to pay the rent.

	13-03-2005 00:40									#49
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Actually it has support of most of the reps from the Midwest farm states. Mostly, these cuts will come from the hide of the Southern and Californian corporate farmers.

F*cking the Agribusinesses? even better.

	13-03-2005 00:48									#50
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quote: I do For One say this poor family hs medicaid. lets take their food stamps away thast way the can go to the hospital for starvation. Or Lets say the recieve SSi lets take away thier food stamps so they can either decide to eat or live on the street for lack of cash to pay the rent.

Yes, but is that what Bush is proposing?

	13-03-2005 00:50									#51
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Thats my point vague news articles induce an uproar and dont explain all the facts. If you read this article thats what you get. To me thats what he is saying.

	13-03-2005 00:56									#52
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imho the united states, trying to become a super nation, has paid more attention to war in other lands and all other countries that dont want the help, Then they have to the problems we have here. The first priority should the the people of this land. But i admit im ignorant when it comes to politics.

	13-03-2005 01:08									#53
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It's a terrible indictment on Apolyton's right wing posters that decent left wing posters like Provost Harrison have had to resort to charitable self pwnings to keep the right's score above zero.

I salute the generous egalitarian spirit of Gertrude.. I mean The Provost.

	13-03-2005 01:25									#54
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Gerty was right, apparently Imran and DD needed to read the whole article, especially the part my wife quoted, which I willl do again:

quote: Bush is proposing to withdraw food stamps for certain families already receiving other government assistance. The administration estimates that plan would remove more than 300,000 people from the rolls and save $113 million annually.

While the article may be wrong on that point,Seems PH i s owed an apology.

Both of you PWNED by my wife!

Go get 'em!

ACK!

	13-03-2005 01:26									#55
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quote: save $113 million annually.

didn't the presidential yacht cost more? anyone remember?

	13-03-2005 01:26									#56
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LOL LOLOLOOOLOOLLOOLLL PWNAGE!1!11!!1!!!!1111

	13-03-2005 01:31									#57
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin More like Republicans just taking care of people who give them money and screwing everyone else.

So you're just restating what Tass said.

	13-03-2005 01:39									#58
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui PH, admit you got PWNED! I'm not a fan of President Bush these days, but I definetly support the plan to have deep cuts in farm subsidies. About time. Don't let the freaking Congressmen stop that!

Bush is reminding me of Reagan in that he's calling for cuts he already knows do not have a snowball's chance in hell of passing just so he can say "well, I tried. Oh, well we'll just have to keep spending".

This is all a game to pass the blame to someone else then at the end of the day they all just keep spending any way. It kind of reminds me of another game politicans play; the house passes a bill (which everyone really opposes but which is popular with voters) then the Senate passes a totally different bill on the same topic. The two bills are so different and so ammended you have to send it back to committee where, of course, it dies a quiet death. The result? The politicians get to say they support the legislation but get to make sure nothing is passed and the moneyed interests are protected.

	13-03-2005 01:40									#59
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We need a revolution.

	13-03-2005 01:44									#60
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quote: Originally posted by DanS Actually it has support of most of the reps from the Midwest farm states. Mostly, these cuts will come from the hide of the Southern and Californian corporate farmers.

I was under the impression that most of the corporate farms were in the midwest.