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The diplomat
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Terre Haute, IN USA
Sep 1999
time: 23:34
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Originally posted by GePap
1. Terry is PVS- she won;t feel a thing- and will die of kidney failure, not "starvation or thirst". This has been said many times over. Get with the program. |
Carla Sauer Iyer, Terri's nurse in 1985, has said that Terri does feel pain. She has also testified that when Terri developped an infection that her husband said "when is that ***** going to die?". This just proves that Terri's husband does not have Terri's best interests at heart. Terri has become inconvenient for him, so he wants her to die. I am infuriated that he is going to be allowed to use the law to murder an innocent person. And make no mistake: that's what this whole story is about.
You can live in denial and pretend that killing Terri is ok. The facts are the facts: Terri can feel pain, is conscious, and is alive. Removing that tube is murder. It's just legalized murder, so you can feel good about yourself. 
I refuse to "get with the program", when the program is murdering innocent people!
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2. Its illegal under Florida court to euthenise. Maybe if the State of Florida stopped living in the past and gave that option, this sorry mess would be over. |
The right thing to do is keep Terri alive. Why are some people so eager to end life when it becomes inconvenient?
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Guynemer
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Originally posted by The diplomat
The facts are the facts: Terri can feel pain, is conscious, and is alive. |
And what medical school did you graduate from, doctor?
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Guynemer
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Every court-appointed neurologist agrees.
She has no chance of recovery. She has zero cortical activity. She can not feel, she can not think. Everything that made her what she was is long since gone. And there is zero--zero--chance of recovering any of that.
Yet, she is not dead. Not legally. She still has brainstem function--reflexes, breathing. But she has no cognitive presence whatsoever. Whether or not that makes her dead in a philosophical sense is debatable.
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Drake Tungsten
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Knee deep in alien womyn...
Oct 2001
time: 14:34
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Responsiveness:Â The patient would immediately respond to sound, tone of voice and to touch and pain. |
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Sensory Exam: The patient was tested to light touch, pressure, and sharp touch and pain in all four extremities and on her face. The pain portion in the extremities was conducted by pinching the nail beds of her hands and feet. She clearly feels pain as the videotapes show.
On the face, noxious stimulation including cotton swab up the nose and gag sensation and papillary touch with cotton evidenced a pain response. These were more than just reflexes, as she appeared to be annoyed by these painful responses long after they had stopped, and would not smile at me again for the rest of the day. She certainly feels pressure, as was discussed earlier, and opposes pressure with voluntary motor activity. When using a sharp piece of wood, which she found uncomfortable, and going over her entire body (except diapered areas and breast areas), we found that sensation is present everywhere. Sensation on the right side as evidenced by moaning or tightening up muscles or withdrawal and was more prevalent than on the left. |
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Impression:
The patient is not in coma.
She is alert and responsive to her environment. She responds to specific people best. She tries to please others by doing activities for which she gets verbal praise. She responds negatively to poor tone of voice. She responds to music.
She differentiates sounds from voices.
She differentiates specific people's voices from others.
She differentiates music from stray sounds.
She attempts to verbalize.
She has voluntary control over multiple extremities
She can swallow.
She is partially blind
She is probably aphasic and has a degree of receptive aphasia.
She can feel pain.
On this last point, it is interesting to observe that the records from Hospice show frequent medication administered for pain by staff. |
http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/sh...?t=49760&page=7
Not a court-appointed neurologist though...
Last edited by Drake Tungsten on 22-03-2005 at 23:50
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shawnmmcc
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Why does the site - or the Doctor - matter? You can always find Doctors who are biased and let their personal beliefs interfere with their professional judgement. That's why courts appoint neutral fact-finders, or why evidence has to be available for both the prosecution and the defense to test it (though if you have a pro bono defense attorney the state may force him to accept the State Police labs report by not giving him money for independent verification).
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On Christmas Eve 2002, Bush appointed three outspoken anti-choice doctors to the Reproductive Health Drugs Advisory Committee of the FDA, which is responsible for making recommendations on several aspects of family planning. The most appalling of these appointments was Dr. W. David Hager. In a book he co-authored, Hager recommends prayer and reading specific scripture for relief of aliments such as headaches and premenstrual syndrome (PMS). Additionally, he is outspoken in his opposition of prescription contraceptives for unmarried women. Dr. Hager is associated with the Christian Medical Association and the Physician's Resource Council of the conservative Focus on the Family group |
uts.cc.utexas.edu/~lbjjpa/publicrecord/mar/story1.html
First site I found on this imbecile. His publications are a matter of public record, as is his appointment.
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22-03-2005 20:12
yet another victim of the right-wing propaganda
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