28-03-2005 06:57									#1
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Just in case anyone has missed it, The Ages Of Man has gone public and will ship next month.

The Website is:
http://www.theagesofman.net/index.html

Apolyton Thread link is:
http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...30&pagenumber=5

AOM is due to ship by Mid April. Time is still available for minor changes to some things.
AOM has many special historical units, made up of WONDER UNITS and HEROES.

The ancient WONDER_UNITS are; HAMMURABI, RAMSES, NEBUCHADNEZZER, ALEXANDER_THE_GREAT, CAESAR.
The Medieval WONDER_UNITS are; BARBAROSSA*, HERACLIUS, SALADIN*, CHARLEMANGE, MONTEZUMA*, SOLIMAN_THE_MAGNIFICENT*, SUN_TZU* AND WILLIAM_THE_CONQUEROR*.
Wonder units with a * after their name are limited to the wonders available to the specific governments of the middle ages.

Ancient HEROES ARE;XENOPHON, EPAMINONDAS, HANNIBAL, SCIPIO AFRICANUS, MARIUS AND VERCINGETORIX.
Medieval HEROES are;BELISARIUS, CHARLES MARTEL, RICHARD THE LIONHEART, BOHEMUND, DE LA VALETTE, ALP ARSLAN AND EL CID.

I would like to include one more Ancient and one more Medieval Hero. If you have some favourites, you can suggest up to two, one a new one and one a replacement for an existing one.

I will start the ball rolling by suggesting LEONIDAS as a new Ancient Hero.

	28-03-2005 14:31									#2
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I was about to suggest Leonidas, i watched The 300 Spartans yesterday

I seriously know next to nothing about ancient and medieval history but what about Darius the Great? Wasnt he in one of the previous versions of Cradle, or some other mod, i forget.

quote: Darius I (Old Persian Dârayavauš): king of ancient Persia, whose reign lasted from 522 to 486. He seized power after killing king Gaumâta, fought a civil war (described in the Behistun inscription), and was finally able to refound the Achaemenid empire, which had been very loosely organized until then. Darius fought several foreign wars, which brought him to India and Thrace. When he died, the Persian empire had reached its largest extent. He was succeeded by his son Xerxes.

	28-03-2005 21:46									#3
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What about Genghis Kahn, Tamerlane, William Wallace, or cortez, pizarro

	29-03-2005 03:36									#4
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Hi E,

The readme can be downloaded from the AOM website for your info.

Genghis Khan comes with the Mongol Horde and is a bad guy. Never considered Tamerlane because he was a Genghis Clone. Cortez is a Wonder Unit in the Gunpowder era.

Pizarro will keep in mind (if you give me more information abour him) as well as Darius.

	29-03-2005 07:20									#5
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Stankarp:

How about some medieval land heros such as Richard III, Henry V, Richard of Burgundy, Duke of Norfolk, Montezuma?

Or some sea heros like Columbus, Francis Drake, Lord Nelson, Magellan, Amerigo?

	29-03-2005 10:20									#6
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Montezuma is a Wonder Unit, comes with Chichen Itza for Theocratic Monarchy government in the middle ages.

Henry V was one I thought about:-)))

	29-03-2005 10:30									#7
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Or Oliver Cromwell, Marlborough...

but a naval wonder unit would be cool

	29-03-2005 12:57									#8
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I wouldn't suggest Cromwell, that's more renaiscance. Put him in the same era as Washington et all.

For a medieval naval wonder, what about the Navy Shipyards at Kiel? Or the Viking expedition to North America via Iceland and Greenland?

For ancient naval wonders you could have the Egyptian expedition round the tip of South Africa (Cape Hope is it?).

Another hero I thought of is the Ottoman Suliman II.

	29-03-2005 16:05									#9
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AOM is principally a land game, it revolves around land based resources. I have not really tackled the sea side of it. Better programmers than me have not solved the problems in that area.

Soliman the Magnificent is already in as a Wonder Unit for Sultanate, the government that follows Caliphate. He comes with Golden Horn Wonder.

There is only one gunpowder wonder unit so far, Cortez. By the time you got to that period, leadership was still very important but there was less of troops changing side and certainly less slave taking.

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Hywel Dda - gave laws that welsh people had the benifit of living under, a beacon of light in the medieval period some consider it. He championed the rights of the downtrodden and setup a very progressive set of laws that ensured freedom for indivduals, rights for women and set measures for compensation claims. Pretty advanced for the time, especially as much of the laws welsh people enjoyed then are only historicaly recent adoptions in our present day laws!!

I've put a number of links in the other thread for you to have a look at

	02-04-2005 03:57									#11
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quote: Originally posted by stankarp AOM is principally a land game, it revolves around land based resources. I have not really tackled the sea side of it. Better programmers than me have not solved the problems in that area. Soliman the Magnificent is already in as a Wonder Unit for Sultanate, the government that follows Caliphate. He comes with Golden Horn Wonder. There is only one gunpowder wonder unit so far, Cortez. By the time you got to that period, leadership was still very important but there was less of troops changing side and certainly less slave taking.

yes slave taking, but what about defecting troops or raising guerrillas or collaborators. I've always hoped for an SF unit that "captured" units and turned them into guerrillas.

	21-04-2005 16:46									#12
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I'm sorry if I missed a point.
I tried to ask this question directly Via your web site "Contact us" but I got only an invalid referral.

I have a Ctp2 Italian version of the game, Do I have to get the english one?



Thank you

	21-04-2005 17:21									#13
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I am not sure,

Have you been able to play any of the English Language Mods like Cradle or Med Mod?

If yes, then you should be able to run AOM.

If not, then probably not and will require an English language version.

Maybe some of the people at the source code forum will have more information.

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You should be able to run any mod on any language version, with one small change: You will probably need to copy the AOM_* prefixed files from the ctp2_data/english/gamedata folder into your ctp2_data/italian/gamedata folder. Do this before selecting AOM in ModSwapper (or if you already have, then start an Original Game to reset the file system). There shouldn't be a file conflict, but it will mean that you can only play AOM in English, rather than Italian.

Unless anyone wants to translate it...

	21-04-2005 18:59									#15
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Stankarp, did you leave the same citysizes from Cradle?

Just curious - I posted in the Source Project forum about the odd (wrong?) values, and if there's a reason for the oddball numbers I'd like to know what it is.

Short summary: in Cradle, the third outer ring of tiles has 24 tiles, but requires only 12 workers. Each worker is thus doubly productive. For the fourth and fifth rings, 14 workers are required for 12 tiles, for a -15% production penalty.

	21-04-2005 19:07									#16
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Adriano,
The thing is, if you do what Immortal Wombat describes, you will have part of the game in English, part of it in Italian, which can be really annoying and disorienting when playing. What might be preferable would be to convert your Italian version of the game to an English version first, and then install AoM or any other mod you'd like. Then the entire game would be in English. See here for details.

On a seperate but somewhat related note, we currently only have the English, German and French text files available for these kinds of things. For the source code efforts, other modmakers and regular players who might prefer an Italian language version of the game over anything else, it would be really nice to have a full set of Italian text files. Maybe you would be willing to do me a favour and zip up your ctp2_data\italian\gamedata folder and attach it in this thread (or email it to me, see my signature for my email)? I would be most grateful...

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Thank you all..
Yes I was able to play Cradle, but anyway I think I'll order the full pack!

	21-04-2005 19:19									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Adriano,... .... it would be really nice to have a full set of Italian text files. Maybe you would be willing to do me a favour and zip up your ctp2_data\italian\gamedata folder and attach it in this thread (or email it to me, see my signature for my email)? I would be most grateful...

Ok! I'll do it as soon as possible...I'm abroad now but I'll going home in a couple of days...

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quote: Originally posted by Locutus On a seperate but somewhat related note, we currently only have the English, German and French text files available for these kinds of things. For the source code efforts, other modmakers and regular players who might prefer an Italian language version of the game over anything else, it would be really nice to have a full set of Italian text files. Maybe you would be willing to do me a favour and zip up your ctp2_data\italian\gamedata folder and attach it in this thread (or email it to me, see my signature for my email)? I would be most grateful...

Italian files, Locutus? Just get the latest version of our source code project and vola you have them. To be precise I added all the strings that needs translation to these files in English. We are just missing a translator.

Well Adriano of course that still means that you can help us by translating these strings.

-Martin

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quote: Originally posted by Martin Gühmann Italian files, Locutus? Just get the latest version of our source code project and vola you have them. To be precise I added all the strings that needs translation to these files in English. We are just missing a translator.

Well, that's good news, but I'd like to have an original out-of-the-box set without having to manually remove all the extra strings added by the project...

	21-04-2005 20:25									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Well, that's good news, but I'd like to have an original out-of-the-box set without having to manually remove all the extra strings added by the project...

What about this:

http://apolyton.net/forums/attachme...&postid=3246569

Posted by Flinx in the Tranlation Center.

-Martin

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quote: Stankarp, did you leave the same citysizes from Cradle?

Yes, had enough other things to change

	22-04-2005 04:28									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Martin Gühmann http://apolyton.net/forums/attachme...&postid=3246569

That seems to be what I'm looking for, thx. Now, if someone just had the Spanish version too...

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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Now, if someone just had the Spanish version too...

If all goes well someone should have it in a day or two

EDIT: Which can now be found HERE.

	23-04-2005 20:04									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus That seems to be what I'm looking for, thx. Now, if someone just had the Spanish version too...

So are you ok now?

	23-04-2005 20:17									#26
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Almost. As you can read here, I'm still looking for the Italian Scenario files and if possible the sound.zfs file, providing the unit sounds in the Italian version of the game are actually in Italian (it's quite a large file, but I would really like to have it if it's unique).

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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Almost. As you can read here, I'm still looking for the Italian Scenario files and if possible the sound.zfs file, providing the unit sounds in the Italian version of the game are actually in Italian (it's quite a large file, but I would really like to have it if it's unique).

Yes! Sound.zfs is 21MB!!!....so I can't use the upload service...What can I do?

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You could email me (though I'm not sure if there's a cap to how big emails can be, never had any problems with anything up to 20 MB but never tried anything bigger -- but if that's a problem you could split it in two).

Or you could upload it to the Modmakers Depot, which everyone here is free to use as they see fit (as long as the files are CtP-related). You'll need to use a FTP client to upload.

Address: ftp.250free.com
Login: ctpmodmakers
Password: [password removed by the archive]

	25-04-2005 16:29									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Or you could upload it to the Modmakers Depot, which everyone here is free to use as they see fit (as long as the files are CtP-related). You'll need to use a FTP client to upload.

You got it.
It's in the root.

	25-04-2005 16:39									#30
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I'm a little bit confused.
Could you clarify if Ages of Man has an improved CTP2 code?