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Pekka is offline Pekka
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KH, right, that's a pretty good analogy actually. And this is a case of medication too and not just some burgers...

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I have no problem with pharmamists who won't sell such medication provided they clearly state that beforehand. I don't find a compelling interest to force these pharmacists to act against their morals.


How about the fact that they're BEING PAID TO DO SO.

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This just proves that religious people shouldn't be allowed jobs that bring them into contact with the public.

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I'm going to go get a job at MacDonald's and then claim it's against my religious beliefs to serve non-Kosher food...


That won't work. McDonalds can't reasonably be described as "food".

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If they're hired under an agreement to not dispense the given medications then they don't have to.

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Such policies are the same as barring all members of one religion from working there.


Catholics aren't allowed to be executioners, either, by that logic - oh, the horror, religious discrimination! ZOMFG!!!!

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Ben has just been gang-raped.

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Gang-rape

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Ben has just been gang-raped.



We should send the pictures to his priest, but I fear that they'd be too well received.

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ahh come on. Just because most of us in here don't agree with him doesn't mean we should be nasty about having a different opinion on this case.

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We should send the pictures to his priest, but I fear that they'd be too well received.


Why? He's not a little kid...

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I admire them for standing up for what they believe, but they shouldn't expect to keep their jobs.

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ObL is also standing up for what he believes in...

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It's not merely a matter of opinion. It's a matter of Ben consistently refusing to listen to his brain before he types.

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edit: nm

Down with popery!!

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DanSed too!

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I have no problem with pharmamists who won't sell such medication provided they clearly state that beforehand. I don't find a compelling interest to force these pharmacists to act against their morals.


che

If they work for a chain, then fire them. If they own their own pharmacy, then tough luck. No business owner should be forced to carry a product if they don't want to.

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Hahaha I DanSed you.

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ObL is also standing up for what he believes in...


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ahh come on. Just because most of us in here don't agree with him doesn't mean we should be nasty about having a different opinion on this case.

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I admire them for standing up for what they believe, but they shouldn't expect to keep their jobs.


Exactly. It doesn't bug me that they're taking a stand; it bugs me that they think they can take the stand but should be shielded from any consequences of their actions.

Reminds me of these idiot leftist protesters I knew in college. They openly disrupted a talk by CIA director William Casey, which was brave in its own way -- then called in every chip they could think of (alumni parents, professors they'd befriended, etc.) to keep the university from disciplining them -- which was sheer cowardice and a betrayal of their own principles.

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DanSed too!


Curses!!!

Anyway... any more jokes about the church of man/boy love?

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I have no problem with pharmamists who won't sell such medication provided they clearly state that beforehand. I don't find a compelling interest to force these pharmacists to act against their morals.


che

If they work for a chain, then fire them. If they own their own pharmacy, then tough luck. No business owner should be forced to carry a product if they don't want to.


There is a problem with only providing it to married women though.

Marital status is one of those things you aren't allowed to discriminate based on...

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quote:
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I have no problem with pharmamists who won't sell such medication provided they clearly state that beforehand. I don't find a compelling interest to force these pharmacists to act against their morals.


che

If they work for a chain, then fire them. If they own their own pharmacy, then tough luck. No business owner should be forced to carry a product if they don't want to.


But again, this is about more than carrying a product; its about picking and choosing who to serve (as with refusing to give the pill to single women). That's just bullsh*t.

EDIT: KH clealy types more quickly than I do.

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Exactly. It doesn't bug me that they're taking a stand; it bugs me that they think they can take the stand but should be shielded from any consequences of their actions.

Reminds me of these idiot leftist protesters I knew in college. They openly disrupted a talk by CIA director William Casey, which was brave in its own way -- then called in every chip they could think of (alumni parents, professors they'd befriended, etc.) to keep the university from disciplining them -- which was sheer cowardice and a betrayal of their own principles.


You should welcome consequences if you are really doing it for principles.

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There is a problem with only providing it to married women though.


I never said I approved of them discriminating based on marital status. If they don't want to sell it, that's fine. If they do sell it, though, they need to sell it to everyone.

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So we're agreed, then...

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I don't think any of us are going to be moving to Jesusland anytime soon.

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I don't think any of us are going to be moving to Jesusland anytime soon.


I thank Jesus daily for allowing me to be born and raised in Blue states...

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Is this case still a big deal? I remember it coming up a year ago.

 
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