04-04-2005 02:40									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski what part of the statements from some of the lawyers didnt you get.

I get all of it. I think defending criminals is a necessary but immoral job.

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well isnt expermiental medicine and animal testing in the same lines
as lawyer

	04-04-2005 02:45									#123
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious I get all of it. I think defending criminals is a necessary but immoral job.

What part of innocent until proven guilty do you not comprehend?

Until convicted, a person is a defendant, not a criminal. you don't seem to understand the difference.

	04-04-2005 02:46									#124
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Why do you think so?

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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel What part of innocent until proven guilty do you not comprehend? Until convicted, a person is a defendant, not a criminal. you don't seem to understand the difference.

Considering them innocent is not the same thing as them being innocent.

	04-04-2005 02:52									#126
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Considering them innocent is not the same thing as them being innocent.

And that's for you to decide?

No, its not, its for the judge/jury to decide. You fail to understand the roles of the various actors in the dance.

	04-04-2005 02:57									#127
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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel And that's for you to decide? No, its not, its for the judge/jury to decide. You fail to understand the roles of the various actors in the dance.

I have no idea what you are getting at.

Why did you become a defense attorney?

	04-04-2005 03:01									#128
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the thing is they are all considered innocent till proven guilty by a judge or jury. Hell just being arrested doesnt make them guilty. T

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I'm thinking the mysterious unnamed ghost killer from the OJ case got him.

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quote: Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski the thing is they are all considered innocent till proven guilty by a judge or jury. Hell just being arrested doesnt make them guilty. T

Why is that the thing? The thing is OJ was guilty, and everyone knew it. Cochran may have told himself that he didn't care if he was guilty, but he knew he was and he got him off the hook. I could never do something like that. If other people think it's ok for themselves then good, because someone needed to defend OJ. I just think who ever did is a scumbag.

	04-04-2005 03:27									#131
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Cochran didnt act alone and im sorry the prosecution didnt prove to me he was guilty. I think he hired somebody to do the killings but dont think he was cabpable to do it himself

	04-04-2005 03:32									#132
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious I have no idea what you are getting at.

quote: Originally posted by Kidicious likewise Why did you become a defense attorney?

to ensure that the constitution is upheld for even the lowest of our society. I am there to make sure the police, the prosecutor, and the judge all follow the proper procedures. Because I don't want to live in a society where the police do not have to abide by the Constitution. My attitude is that if everyone does their job properly, the right end is reached. I might feel differently if I was paid by my clients, but I am not.


And its fun to piss police off when they're on the witness stand

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The defense team in the OJ case abused the jury selection process. Not only did they try to dismiss every white person from the jury so that a city with 1% of the population being black had 75% of the jury black but then they went even further and adminster intelligence tests and background checks in order that intelligent and/or educated people could be dismissed. Their goals was to find drooling idiots who were to stupid to understand DNA evidience.

That was a clear abuse of the legal system and I would like to see lawyers forced to follow ethics laws so that if they lie or say something they know isn't true while practicing law then they are automatically disbared. We have to many shite bag lawyers and we need to get rid of the bottom of the barrel.

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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel to ensure that the constitution is upheld for even the lowest of our society. I am there to make sure the police, the prosecutor, and the judge all follow the proper procedures. Because I don't want to live in a society where the police do not have to abide by the Constitution. My attitude is that if everyone does their job properly, the right end is reached. I might feel differently if I was paid by my clients, but I am not. And its fun to piss police off when they're on the witness stand

what a great attitude. Ilove it

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quote: Originally posted by asleepathewheel to ensure that the constitution is upheld for even the lowest of our society. I am there to make sure the police, the prosecutor, and the judge all follow the proper procedures. Because I don't want to live in a society where the police do not have to abide by the Constitution. My attitude is that if everyone does their job properly, the right end is reached. I might feel differently if I was paid by my clients, but I am not. And its fun to piss police off when they're on the witness stand

OK. I never looked at it that way.

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin The defense team in the OJ case abused the jury selection process. Not only did they try to dismiss every white person from the jury so that a city with 1% of the population being black had 75% of the jury black but then they went even further and adminster intelligence tests and background checks in order that intelligent and/or educated people could be dismissed. Their goals was to find drooling idiots who were to stupid to understand DNA evidience. That was a clear abuse of the legal system and I would like to see lawyers forced to follow ethics laws so that if they lie or say something they know isn't true while practicing law then they are automatically disbared. We have to many shite bag lawyers and we need to get rid of the bottom of the barrel.

What are you talking about the defnse did no such thing, in th oj case. Background checks in a hi profile trial is necessary to make sure the jury was in it for justice and not in need of money so they can sell their story. And for the record a lot of black jurors were dismissed

	04-04-2005 05:46									#138
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Why is that the thing? The thing is OJ was guilty, and everyone knew it.

I agree completely. When everyone knows someone is guilty, we might as well skip a trial. Hell, why don't we just go take care of justice ourselves? Time for a lynch mob

	04-04-2005 07:30									#139
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Yeah lets hang everyone cause they are guilty of something, fuc* the truth