02-04-2005 18:38									#151
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Super Smash Bros.

	02-04-2005 23:45									#152
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike I am not a console nut - how does the PS2's online MP compare in functionality and cost?

Similar to Nintendo's approach with the Gamecube - provide the hardware adapters for online play and then let the game developers sort everything out. There's no centralized service like with Xbox live.

quote: Originally posted by Frankychan In an article I read in Game Informer, they said that the old CEO of Nintendo is against internet play because, to paraphrase, "the internet is just a fad" and "gamers don't want to play against gamers online".

Iwata has a serious case of "open-mouth-insert-foot" syndrome and has made some incredibly retarded comments in the past. Luckily not everyone at Nintendo thinks like that and Reggie, one of the north american VPs actually knows what he's talking about and is fun to listen to.

	02-04-2005 23:46									#153
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That could be why he's the OLD CEO of Nintendo and not the current one.

	03-04-2005 04:32									#154
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Thanks Ix and Kuci.

But from investigating the company, the old CEO of Nintendo still carries a lot of influence in the company.

I like Reggie Fils-Aime, even though I'm not a contemporary Nintendo fan (nostalgic, definitely a fan). Anyway, I hope he does turn the company around cause they've been taking a beating for years.

	04-04-2005 19:23									#155
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quote: Originally posted by Kuciwalker Budget PC's don't make good gaming platforms.

Depends what kind of games you want to play. We've had extensive discussions of this on OG = a budget PC will play almost everything out at the time of sale, except for the most graphics intensive FPS. Of course over the next two years after purchase it will play a declining share of new games, though still almost all TBS. By 3 or 4 years after release you'll be reduced to Paradox games only. Then you will need a new machine. Of course by then youd need a new console too, wouldnt you?

	04-04-2005 19:24									#156
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quote: Originally posted by Asher When a PC lets me play my console games with only a controller while sprawled out on my living room couch with a bigscreen HDTV

Dont own a big screen HDTV. Dont plan on owning one.

	04-04-2005 19:30									#157
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quote: Originally posted by Asher 5) Use computers for 99% of their time awake already and like a change

see thats the funniest thing. "I work typing at a PC all day, so i when i get home I want something completely different, so i get in front of a machine thats really a PC modified to play certain games, and instead of using a keyboard and mouse i use a controller"

Youd think someone who wants a CHANGE would ride a bicycle, plant a garden, go to a lecture, see a play, have a beer at tavern, take up cooking, or whatever. Someone who thinks that playing on console instead of a PC make a big "change" is so far down the road to ultimate geekdom, that when he calls others PC geeks, its simply hilarious.

	04-04-2005 19:32									#158
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay Europa Universalis 2 is being ported to the Nintendo DS edit to say that I'm most looking forward to Nintendo's Revolution at E3 (lol nintendo lol)

1. thats the DS, not the Xbox, so my technical point remains.

2. I wonder how playable it will really be

3. Thats about 4 years after release. PC ports are available for the most popular 4 year old console titles, IIUC.

	04-04-2005 19:33									#159
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo You are such a philistine.

Yes, I think thats been pretty well established

	04-04-2005 19:34									#160
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Who's calling others PC geeks?

I'm talking about a change in posture and environment. PC gaming and console gaming are very different in that respect.

As for "having a beer at a tavern" -- I need to drive home, I don't drink during the week. "take up cooking" -- how do you think dinner gets made. "Plant a garden" -- I'm renting a room in someone's house. "Ride a bicycle" -- Don't own one, don't have space for one, don't need one...I go to the gym 5 days a week.

Any other suggestions...

	04-04-2005 19:40									#161
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Who's calling others PC geeks? I'm talking about a change in posture and environment. PC gaming and console gaming are very different in that respect. As for "having a beer at a tavern" -- I need to drive home, I don't drink during the week. "take up cooking" -- how do you think dinner gets made.

Probably not by "gourmet cooking" Look, im not interested in critiquing your lifestyle, much less improving it. I merely point out that there are MANY leisure activities that are more different from working with a PC all day than playing a game on a related electronic product. To suggest that the difference is a reason to play on the console strikes me as silly.

	04-04-2005 19:57									#162
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark Probably not by "gourmet cooking" Look, im not interested in critiquing your lifestyle, much less improving it. I merely point out that there are MANY leisure activities that are more different from working with a PC all day than playing a game on a related electronic product. To suggest that the difference is a reason to play on the console strikes me as silly.

It strikes me as silly to be partisan to one platform or the other.

I enjoy both, and console gaming is a change of pace from PC gaming.

Maybe I just game more than you do and want to mix it up a bit more.

	04-04-2005 22:26									#163
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Nice trolling LotM.

	04-04-2005 22:29									#164
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Nice trolling LotM.

and not even damned +1, and on a game related topic

	04-04-2005 23:22									#165
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Yeah I would have posted it in OG.

You could always post a more balanced thread containing your views in OG, so that we could get, uh, a wider discussion.

	04-04-2005 23:44									#166
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Fingers crossed(backwards compatibility).

It will also help ensure the xbox will get thrid party support(well ok it generally all goes through MS, but other developers do develope on it) once the plug is officialy pulled. I wondering how many current xbox users will be ready to upgrade (and splash out the new asking price!) after the relative short cycle of xbox(its been 2-3 years right?).

	04-04-2005 23:49									#167
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case in point

Halo. THE killer app of the Xbox platform, IIUC.
Developed by Bungie Software. A company that started in 1996 developing for the PC (Marathon, Myth, etc) Will the Xbox environment be friendly to small new developers, who will create the Halos of the future?

	04-04-2005 23:54									#168
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quote: Originally posted by lord of the mark case in point Halo. THE killer app of the Xbox platform, IIUC. Developed by Bungie Software. A company that started in 1996 developing for the PC (Marathon, Myth, etc) Will the Xbox environment be friendly to small new developers, who will create the Halos of the future?

Actually, Bungie got started in 1991 developing Mac software.

	05-04-2005 05:22									#169
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Asher beat me to it. Marathon was the shiznit!

	05-04-2005 10:44									#170
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Intriguing stuff I found on Gamespot:

quote: TOKYO--In a recent interview on the official Xbox Web site in Japan, Game Republic's Yoshiki Okamoto revealed that other big-name game developers may soon join the growing crowd of next-generation Xbox supporters. He also added that, when announced, the lineup of launch titles for the console may shock the game industry. [Final Fantasy creator Hironobu] Sakaguchi-san, [Space Channel 5 creator Tetsuya] Mizuguchi-san, and myself have been the focus of attention so far. But I've been hearing that some other designers will also be joining [in making games for the next Xbox]. There are a lot of surprises. I find myself saying: 'What, this development studio!? This game!? These people!?'. "If the current line-up [of games] in development for the next-generation Xbox was revealed," Okamoto said in the interview, "it would not only surprise users, but the entire industry. There probably wouldn't be anyone [in Japan] that would still be uninterested in buying the next-generation Xbox when they see the line-up." He called the still-under-wraps list "a powerful fleet of Japanese designers." Okamoto revealed that he is currently making a number of games for the next Xbox, all in genres that are new to him. He added the games are already in playable form. When asked if there was a negative side to working with Microsoft Game Studios, Okamoto commented, "We can't port the games to other hardware even if it seems possible, so that's a disappointment. But even with that downside to income, Xbox has specs that make us want to develop for it." Then, as a final tease, Okamoto said, "I can't reveal the specifics, but one of the games we're making will really go to the extreme."

It seems they're playing their cards right this time.

	05-04-2005 12:52									#171
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This is important.

I am surprised that Xbox is growing support in Japan. From what I've heard of, most of Japan supports the PS brand simply because it's a Nihongin company.

Anyway, with the release of the PSP, I really am curious whether or not the XBox empire plans on releasing a portable product like PS and Nintendo has.

From the estimates I've obtained, Sony has gained an EXTREMELY large foothold on the portable gaming industry that Nintendo seemed to have had exclusive "rights" to.

My money is in the PSP unless the XBox brand can step up and show everyone that they can compete.

	05-04-2005 16:53									#172
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Getting a console seems like the ultimate redundancy for the PC owner. Besides, I don't have to deal with little kids at the computer store when I go see what new titles are out, 'cause they're all looking at console titles.