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Asher
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Calgary, Alberta
Nov 1999
time: 22:32
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Originally posted by Oerdin
Sorry mate but I've already shown you the qualty figures. Why not just admite your basing your argument on your own bias |
Just what is my bias? I'm a Canadian. If anything I'm biased towards Ford since I have an uncle and a cousin who work for Ford at the plant that makes the Crown Vics in St. Thomas, Ontario.
Now what is your bias? A patriotic American defending a "legendary" American business?
Which one is more likely to be blinded by bias?
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instead of the hard facts reported by companies which track these things in a scientific way? |
You avoided this point before and I'll raise it again: Why is JD Powers & Associates more scientific? Both its methods and the methods of Consumer Reports are affected by non-response bias. JDP&A uses a much smaller sample base and a telephone, CR uses a much larger sample base with a postage-paid response form.
If anything, I'd expect the CR to be more accurate. When people get asked on the phone they give an immediate answer, no time to prepare. I doubt most people go look at their files to see how many problems they've had while they're on the phone, while they're more likely to do so when they have a couple weeks to send the thing in.
Further, the JDP&A reports are either for 1 or 3-year ownership, which is well within the points of warranty by every major manufacturer. It's in the company's best interest to keep those defects down, as it costs them money to replace. If the parts fail after warranty, however, they make money off of it. I know for absolute fact that GM (and presumably Ford) have far less QA standards and testing than Toyota (and presumably Honda) does.
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You've been repeatedly pwned in this thread by everyone from Ming to me so give it up and just say "My name is Asher and I prefer my own bias to real facts".  |
You are so out to lunch, man...
You've been repeatedly owned, you just don't want to see it.
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Thorgal
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Tarifa, Cádiz.
Jan 2002
time: 05:32
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Excepting Ford, I know little about GM and the other americans cars since those cars have not succes at all here. I dont know if they have improved lately but perceptions have not. People see americans cars not only as big fuel consumers but as low technology, low performance bad designed slow ugly cars and when they try to sell designs a la european (or japnesse) they are seen as some sort of low quality copy.
About Fords models most people dont think about them as "american cars". I have never had one, but in all comparisons of specialized magazines they obtain qualifications mostly at the same level as japanesse or european cars.
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