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2. Try to upload compilations instead of individual units. Well, there's nothing preventing you from uploading individual units, but it would be an administrative pain.



That's what I intend to do (if I can figure this Wiki thing out ). I propose quality not quantity - there are a number of compilations of original work by the artists I listed above. I suggest that people stick to posting their graphics in the forum pages and leave the SLeague for collections of original work by recognised artists.

@H Tower - ANZAC and many others have made lots of nice icons derived from Nemo's originals, and I'll try to make a compilation of the best of these as a 'best of SLeague' mix. Let's leave this for the future and stick to the original work for now.

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I've hit my first snag

I see there's a copyright disclaimer for image uploads. I can't upload anything unless I'm the copyright holder or I get the holder's agreement....

Now what? Not sure I know how to cantact Alex and Erwan for example.

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good work so far with your scenarios, but it's time for a little lesson to help you out.

on the Eivind IV page, http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.p...egory:Eivind_IV
you have a link to "Blitzkrieg", when you most likely should be pointing at "The Blitzkrieg Series"


Thanks for that

It was just a temporary template I used though...

I love the new style, with alphabetical order and arranged by designer etc. Let's make this the biggest, best and most organized scenario site ever!

Cheers, and keep up the good work!

(Done now btw, almost...)

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I've hit my first snag

I see there's a copyright disclaimer for image uploads. I can't upload anything unless I'm the copyright holder or I get the holder's agreement....

Now what? Not sure I know how to cantact Alex and Erwan for example.


I had a small problem with that before too, until I read the Scenario League Copyright page. http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.p...ague:Copyrights

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I get 'there is currently no text' in this page H Tower ??

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exactly

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I've hit my first snag

I see there's a copyright disclaimer for image uploads. I can't upload anything unless I'm the copyright holder or I get the holder's agreement....

Now what? Not sure I know how to cantact Alex and Erwan for example.



Can I help? For the Freeciv project I've contacted a number of civ2 artists.

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Sleague Copyrights

We have a relaxed attitude towards copyright. With one exception -- [[:Category:Alex Mor|Alex Mor]] -- none of us are in this to make money. Rather, we are giving back to the games that we love.

When someone creates content for a game and makes it available online, they intend for it to be widely disseminated among those who would appreciate it. In most cases, you may presume implicit permission to forward and to highlight with full credit. The creators want to share with others what they enjoyed making, but they also want to be recognized for their art, their craft, and their achievements.

Please respect the work of others. Present it in a tasteful and aethetically pleasing manner. Integrate the creations into the larger picture, but also showcase every work as an achievement in its own right. Refer to people by their pseudonym of choice, and follow the spirit of their explicit instructions. Don't forget those who were before us, and keep their works available for those who will come after us.

The rules are:
*be respectful and appreciative; honour fellow creators
*be reasonable; it is okay to presume certain things
*do not be stupid; Britney Spears mp3s do not belong here
*give proper credit; it is plagiarism if you don't


So, am I going to get flamed for this?

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well if we're going to single out Alex Mor, we might want to write a little on what we can do with his work?

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Pretty much everything. Historically, Alex used to sell his scenarios. He later abandoned the approach.

Hmm.

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So where does this leave us? Why have the upload disclaimer if members ignore it?

Should all authors/artists be contacted for their approval before uploading?

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So where does this leave us? Why have the upload disclaimer if members ignore it?

Should all authors/artists be contacted for their approval before uploading?


I don't see why scenarios or graphics that are already hosted by other public civ2 sites, can't be hosted at SL.

To contact all members before uploading would leave too much bureacracy and ultimately be very ineffective for a dynamic site such as the new SL site will be.

And I agree, the upload disclaimer is maybe a bit improper as it is, and probably will not be, respected.

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Why have the upload disclaimer if members ignore it?


It's there by default and I haven't investigated how to edit it yet. Ah, found it. It's now "I affirm that I am supposed to be uploading this" instead.

quote:
Should all authors/artists be contacted for their approval before uploading?


No.

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Why don't you use the guidelines we thought out in the threads concerning posting work?

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I'll take a look.

Okay, I agree with the gist of Proper Credits for Graphics:
quote:
curtsibling:
It concerns the proper credit when posting units.
I think when posting a series of units by say, Case,
Darthveda, fairline or ANZAC the posters should say so.

If not it implies that you have lain claim to the units,
which I think is not a very good vibe to be putting across.

I think also that changing three pixels and then pasting
your sig onto a unit is pushing the boundaries a bit.


However, I think that it's pretty much implied for the wiki. New units should still be pasted in the forum threads. The wiki will be getting compilations, and those compilations are supposed to be organized by artist (or, if dealing with something ancient like Harlan's AllUnits, by compiler).


As for An artist's right to post his or her creation, I still think it's silly on the forums and even sillier on the wiki. Our attrition rate is too high for this, and most artists would want their units to be used (as long as proper credit is given) even if they are spending a year in a Turkish prison for tax reasons and can't get to their email inbox.

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I still think it's silly on the forums and even sillier on the wiki. Our attrition rate is too high for this, and most artists would want their units to be used (as long as proper credit is given) even if they are spending a year in a Turkish prison for tax reasons and can't get to their email inbox.


Hear hear... and

H Tower is offline H Tower
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Leo, you did something a little strange with the Nemo/Anzac ship units, they aren't coming up when you click on the civ2 units category. That World War II subheader is probably screwing things up...

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Why are some sections uneditable? Such as the historical scenario section for instance.

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Leo, you did something a little strange with the Nemo/Anzac ship units, they aren't coming up when you click on the civ2 units category. That World War II subheader is probably screwing things up...


Actually, I did something strange with everything besides the Nemo/Anzac ship units. To get an image to show up in its category, you have to edit its description and hit save again. Total pain.

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Why are some sections uneditable? Such as the historical scenario section for instance.


Could someone confirm? I can't reproduce this with either one of my two accounts.

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no, someone may have spelled historical incorrectly somewhere, and that's what the problem is.

 
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