17-04-2005 15:36									#1
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Ok, we were crying about haste boots in Folderol. It is possible to get plain haste boots with no penalties in two ways. One is dead secret and will get you Gnomish Running Shoes. The other way is to rely on a very very rare chance of the random loot script putting Boots of Speed in a chest or a monster's inventory.

Or, if are a warrior, why are you bothered about a few skill penalties anyway? You can always take the boots off to pick a lock or trade or craft or something

-Jam

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Which makes it even more of a shame that I cant remember for the life of me where I found them! But those old fleet foot boots were not so bad after all. I think I picked up a short sword of haste somewhere as well...

	17-04-2005 16:59									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Well, what else comes after a revolution? This is a general NWN thread! Ok, we were crying about haste boots in Folderol. It is possible to get plain haste boots with no penalties in two ways. One is dead secret and will get you Gnomish Running Shoes. The other way is to rely on a very very rare chance of the random loot script putting Boots of Speed in a chest or a monster's inventory. Or, if are a warrior, why are you bothered about a few skill penalties anyway? You can always take the boots off to pick a lock or trade or craft or something -Jam

Ooh what's the secret?

And those other boots don't just give penalties to skills IIRC.

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Is foderal where most of you folks play?

	17-04-2005 18:08									#5
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It's Folderol, and many of us have sampled it at one point or another.

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quote: Originally posted by Jamski Or, if are a warrior, why are you bothered about a few skill penalties anyway? You can always take the boots off to pick a lock or trade or craft or something -Jam

There's also the -3 AC (dodge modifier penalty). Fun to have when toe to toe with six enemies

I'd imagine it'd be even more fun if they had shooter backup. Remind me not to wear these things if I play with the bandits.

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But haste gives you +4 dodge ac, So you end up +1 at the end of the day Not quite so clever if you get slowed, or you have potions of speed though

	17-04-2005 20:27									#8
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There's other items that give Haste too. Robes, weapons, potions, the spell itself.

The argument is that haste is very good, but for a warrior its very very good. I mean the extra attack at your highest attack bonus is worth giving up a lot for!

Ah well, in NWN 2, with its D&D 3.5 rules, haste is much toned down. It doesn't affect casting speed or attack speed anymore, just ac and movement speed

-Jam

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quote: Originally posted by Snotty But haste gives you +4 dodge ac, So you end up +1 at the end of the day Not quite so clever if you get slowed, or you have potions of speed though

I don't think it does, or maybe it's cancelled out and the -3 is net. I wore them fighting a group bats in Old Gnoma and got poisoned 4 times. Previous trips in there resulted in one or two poisonings total. Could be that I was just unlucky this time, I suppose.

quote: Originally posted by Jamski There's other items that give Haste too. Robes, weapons, potions, the spell itself. The argument is that haste is very good, but for a warrior its very very good. I mean the extra attack at your highest attack bonus is worth giving up a lot for! Ah well, in NWN 2, with its D&D 3.5 rules, haste is much toned down. It doesn't affect casting speed or attack speed anymore, just ac and movement speed -Jam

I haven't heard of any other items except for the flashsuit, which isn't really useful for my character. I'm rarely rely on potions for anything but healing, probably a carry over from my pen and paper days when keeping track of potions and durations was too much of a bother.

Haste is very very good, enough for me to actually ask people on the server about items that have it.

And finally, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! But I guess that is more balanced...

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quote: Originally posted by Jamski There's other items that give Haste too. Robes, weapons, potions, the spell itself. The argument is that haste is very good, but for a warrior its very very good. I mean the extra attack at your highest attack bonus is worth giving up a lot for! Ah well, in NWN 2, with its D&D 3.5 rules, haste is much toned down. It doesn't affect casting speed or attack speed anymore, just ac and movement speed -Jam

Warriors need it late on to even get close to the power of a mage character.

	17-04-2005 21:31									#11
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Why do stonger monsters pop up for no apparent reason (to my feeble mind that is)? Go from moderate rated piss ants and mendic ants to impossible rated Gi Ant and someother even tougher ant (I have no objection to their ratings, btw ), for example.

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Oops! That was you?! I went for a quick spin down to the ant bit just a little earlier, only to find the loot picked clean. I checked my player tool, and saw someone half my level in the area, so I left rather sharpish. You may have got nobbled by some of the spawn in there that was meant for me! Sorry about that

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quote: Originally posted by ColdWizard Why do stonger monsters pop up for no apparent reason (to my feeble mind that is)? Go from moderate rated piss ants and mendic ants to impossible rated Gi Ant and someother even tougher ant (I have no objection to their ratings, btw ), for example.

Usually they are spawned by higher characters in the vicinity, and are still there when you arrive.

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quote: Originally posted by Jamski There's other items that give Haste too. Robes, weapons, potions, the spell itself. The argument is that haste is very good, but for a warrior its very very good. I mean the extra attack at your highest attack bonus is worth giving up a lot for! Ah well, in NWN 2, with its D&D 3.5 rules, haste is much toned down. It doesn't affect casting speed or attack speed anymore, just ac and movement speed -Jam

Tell you the truth, that's the biggest reason I want haste, you just plod to slowly without haste.

I was trying to see if I could make some boots that work the same way.

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quote: Originally posted by Snotty Oops! That was you?! I went for a quick spin down to the ant bit just a little earlier, only to find the loot picked clean. I checked my player tool, and saw someone half my level in the area, so I left rather sharpish. You may have got nobbled by some of the spawn in there that was meant for me! Sorry about that

Aha! I almost killed one of them, but then the other came up to melee also and I was slow on my last heal potion. You cost me all of 650 exp (Which is only 9 or so non-uber ants, not a big deal )

	17-04-2005 23:44									#16
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike It's Folderol, and many of us have sampled it at one point or another.

even I have sampled it. It's kind of fun. But it's like a MMORPG. and they just aren't my thing as I have found out recently.

	18-04-2005 01:37									#17
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Do we have a list of 'Poly Folderolers? Or is it just that one Folderol subforum?

	18-04-2005 01:50									#18
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No, but if anyone wants to make a list and some playing times, the week after next I'm up for running a DM'ed campaign for 'Poly Folderolers The Holy Quest for the Something!

quote: Tell you the truth, that's the biggest reason I want haste, you just plod to slowly without haste. I was trying to see if I could make some boots that work the same way.

Well actually... I'm trying to get a "running tool" to work properly today. The idea being you can toggle running (at Haste speed) on and off, it won't work if you already have Haste speed or 12 or more Monk levels, and it switches off automatically in combat mode. A right bugger of a script.

-Jam

	18-04-2005 02:05									#19
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The quest for DrSpike's Kukri of pwning?

	18-04-2005 02:06									#20
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I just tried to edit your post to add an "a", but then I realised that I don't have admin powers on 'poly

	18-04-2005 02:29									#21
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"pwning" pwns

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In contrast pawning does not.

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BTW, ever since I lurk in the NWN threads, I see you speaking aboput kukris of pwning/pawning, and I have no idea as to why

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He needs uber-kukris for his character

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My uber-rapiers supposedly exist.

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I demand... um... uber- er... uber- ... uber-uber-mega barbarian stuff? Oh wait, I think I saw something at the monastery...

I need to be able to import my local version of my character with all his stuff, minus any items of my own creation

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor BTW, ever since I lurk in the NWN threads, I see you speaking aboput kukris of pwning/pawning, and I have no idea as to why

I don't like kukris since, like rapiers, they are unbalanced in the game and are used solely by munchkins.

You see they have low base damage but high weapon speed and an improved critical range so if you build your character right you can get critical damage 50% of the time and every time you get a critical hit the enemy must make a saving throw or die.

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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin I don't like kukris since, like rapiers, they are unbalanced in the game and are used solely by munchkins. You see they have low base damage but high weapon speed and an improved critical range so if you build your character right you can get critical damage 50% of the time and every time you get a critical hit the enemy must make a saving throw or die.

really? I never used kukris. Maybe I'll have to try them sometime.

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You have to take a bunch of feats to get the crit on 11-20 but it can be done. Regular kukris have crits on 18-20 while a long sword has crits on 19-20.

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but aren't kukris only 1 to 4 damage? wouldn't a crit only be 2 to 8 damage?