19-04-2005 02:37									#151
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quote: Originally posted by Japher There was on hot ChemE that I remember, because I work with her now. She has a BA in economics and is a project manager makin 150k/year... I think stacking on degrees is the way to go

You're making me drool. I'll have two pretty soon.

	19-04-2005 02:38									#152
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When did she graduate? Did she go to Cal? If so, maybe she was one of the ones I went to school with.

	19-04-2005 02:41									#153
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I went to Davis, and so did she

	19-04-2005 03:40									#154
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quote: Originally posted by Asher 1) It makes no sense to clump undergrad and grad degrees together when talking about salary 2) It is missing things such as medicine and law, which are graduate degrees...

IN Canada your first degree-- The LLB is a BACHELOR of LAWS. It says so right on the degree on my wall -- Most lawyers thats all they have and you can go on to a masters or a doctorate.

Oh ,and a majority, but nowhere near all, law students have prior degrees.

In the states they seem to start you out with a JD or something IIRC and since the survey is American, their numbers would apply

	19-04-2005 03:49									#155
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Tp follow up, getting a law degree takes between 3 and 7+ years education

It takes 3 years for those people in the "mature" category that can demonstrate life/business experience combined with a strong LSAT score to get in even if they have no college at all.

Others get in after 2 years of undergrad or 3 or 4.

Still others have a masters and a doctorate before they come. It varies widely.

	19-04-2005 03:50									#156
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Oh and if people are going to get cute about how long a given degree takes, you need to factor in that some arts degrees are shorter and some engineering degrees longer into the picture

	19-04-2005 03:50									#157
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I don't understand why people have to get a different degree to study law in the US.

	19-04-2005 03:56									#158
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious I don't understand why people have to get a different degree to study law in the US.

I don't know, I've never questioned it since my Canadian BACHELOR's law degree is very very marketable worldwide . . . perhaps because there is only something like 15 schools in the entire country that grant them.

	19-04-2005 04:05									#159
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse If you can't understand the idea behind a measurement then it's useless to discuss the measurement with you.

To be honest, I don't see how your link defined the concept of measurement at all.

Having two words per line isn't the greatest idea when you are trying to explain a concept

	19-04-2005 04:16									#160
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WOW!!! Accounting is the non science, non math, no tech steal no city bribe/no great wall degree to beat this year!

And chem engineering thus defines the most LUCRATIVE and PRESTIGIOUS degree of them all; therefore the best thing to do in life for an educated person!

Outside of non-degree average salaries; being a drunken native working the oil rigs averages a good $55,000 for the first year.. while the fast paced life of a trade registered "Welder" nets a good $85k! On our same arbitrary and personally defined scale of what's worth what and when, these two suckers should easily be worth an ego-boasting $200,000 by the time anything else hits 6 figures!

What to look for in the future Of highest first year average salary (thus BEST ALL AROUND CAREER)? Well - analysts say 2006 is definitely looking good for "High school diploma lacking lumber mill worker", while "Cantonese guy who just moved to San Fransisco and forced a rear end collision to collect insurance claim" is hot on the rise for Q2/06!

Whatever YOUR field, and whatever your case.. just remember to boast now! Remember always: You make more than ANYONE else in the future!

	19-04-2005 04:16									#161
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse To be fair, the average person in sciences is smarter than the average person taking an arts degree, so we'd theoretically have to control for that...

Well, you drag the science people down exponentially, so we have to control for that too.

	19-04-2005 04:25									#162
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To be fair, I'd say that the average grad student in an old style Classics program (which is not me BTW) would own just about anyone else for the smarts required and the hard work.

There's a reason the Empire was built by Classicists.

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quote: Originally posted by GePap And "the average" is not where anyone with ambition plans to be. What entertainers can make is much higher than what engineers can make, though enigneers have a much higher bottom than entertainers.

Are you kidding, the richest men in the world aren't entertainers.

Gorden Moore has more money than any entertainer...what was his profession?

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I have to laugh.

I'd rather die than be like Asher. I can barely imagine what it would like to be to live an unexamined life, devoid of real beauty, art or thought.

I guess he'll say he will think about that when he's playing Doom IV at some Caribbean resort.

I guess my response would be "so will I... I can't imagine anything worse – except perhaps attending a line dance."

	19-04-2005 04:59									#165
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quote: Originally posted by Flubber Oh and if people are going to get cute about how long a given degree takes, you need to factor in that some arts degrees are shorter and some engineering degrees longer into the picture

What engineering degrees take longer than 4 years?

And fine, a LLB is technically a "Bachelor or Laws" degree, but it's still not a real Bachelor's degree in that you can get it after high school with 4 years...

	19-04-2005 05:01									#166
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon I have to laugh. I'd rather die than be like Asher. I can barely imagine what it would like to be to live an unexamined life, devoid of real beauty, art or thought. I guess he'll say he will think about that when he's playing Doom IV at some Caribbean resort. I guess my response would be "so will I... I can't imagine anything worse – except perhaps attending a line dance."

If it makes it any better, I would rather die than be a fat, balding man teaching about Plato to a bunch of disinterested Freshman wanting an easy GPA booster.

My life is anything but devoid of real beauty, art, or thought. It's just that my ideals of all of those differ greatly from yours. You're the kind of person who lives life in the past, I'm the kind that looks to the future.


Stick to teaching Plato, I'll stick to making people's lives better through my work.

I feel like I'm going places, I have a lot to do in my life. I look at you and I feel that you're already done. You'll be stuck teaching at a University for the rest of your life, with your wife that you tease about, and the girls that you oggle online but have no chance with. You've got decades of monotony ahead of you.

	19-04-2005 05:32									#167
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Basically, few people are interested in doing those jobs, there is a high demand, and thus high salaries.

Eh, a lot of people are interested in a lot of the stuff on there - but they aren't capable of doing it.

	19-04-2005 05:36									#168
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor To be honest, I don't see how your link defined the concept of measurement at all. Having two words per line isn't the greatest idea when you are trying to explain a concept

It defined the measurement of correlation.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher What engineering degrees take longer than 4 years?

IIRC Co-op versions-- memorial Uni of NL for one. I could have sworn that some Honors science programs required a 5th year and a Pharmacy program or two ( but thats kile law IIRC in that you usually need some uni to get in)

quote: Originally posted by Asher And fine, a LLB is technically a "Bachelor or Laws" degree, but it's still not a real Bachelor's degree in that you can get it after high school with 4 years...

I don't know what you mean by "technically" since there are Bachelors, masters and doctorate like the other degrees. A law degree is just like any degree that requires a higher standard to get in. I believe that physio, speech pathology, medical school and others have similar standards ( something more than high school) Its not a rare type of standard. If its not a "real " degree, what is it ??

Its actually a pain in a way since law students didn't qualify for "graduate student housing etc "when I was in uni. They may have changed that . . .

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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse It defined the measurement of correlation.

Yes, but it's illegible for the layman.

Heck, I've done all of this **** (my dissertation relied on statistical correlations) but I couldn't even understand the website's definition of mean

	19-04-2005 08:52									#172
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quote: My life is anything but devoid of real beauty, art, or thought.

You've been doing a good job of fooling Apolyton then. I mean that materialist vulgarity seems to be your mission in life.

I guess you justify this to yourself by means of this facile relativism you're always espousing. But that's always the first excuse of those who are too lazy to work to appreciate the fine.