18-04-2005 21:28									#1
	Accounting is the most lucrative non-science/engineering degree Full PM-box? Change here!

The average starting salary ($43k) is even higher than Information Science and Civil Engineering. Yay!

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	18-04-2005 22:09									#2
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A friend of mine made the decision to do a degree in Chemical Engineering based on a table like that, even though he wasn't particularly interested in either chemistry or engineering. I sometimes wonder if his fondness for getting horrifically drunk will overcome the boredom of an uninteresting career.

	18-04-2005 22:11									#3
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Where's Biomedical Engineering?

	18-04-2005 22:14									#4
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poor man's medical physics.

	18-04-2005 22:16									#5
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Good for them-someones got to do those boring jobs.

	18-04-2005 22:20									#6
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* Odin laughs at the liberal arts smucks.

	18-04-2005 22:24									#7
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*laughs at Odin*

	18-04-2005 22:30									#8
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Well **** me- I have an interview for (bio)chemical engineering this Friday. I didn't even know how lucrative it was when I decided to go for it!

	18-04-2005 22:30									#9
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history! history! history!

Who's with me

Seriously though, I'm doing pretty good these days...

	18-04-2005 22:31									#10
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And **** me x 2- I was chatted up by an electrical engineering graduate on Saturday. Shame I'm not gay.

	18-04-2005 22:36									#11
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse poor man's medical physics.

*smites KrazyHorse*

	18-04-2005 22:45									#12
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I started college as an EE. After 3 semesters I had taken 3 advanced physics classes and 3 advanced calculus classes and was completely burnt out. I switch to Computer Science.

I had a Calc professor who walked into class 5 minutes late everyday, did not say hello, did not even face the class. He would just throw his books down on the desk, pick up some chalk and start writing on the chalkboard and talking with his back to us for the entire class. When he filled up the board, he would erase everything and start over.

He had to grade his tests on a curve otherwise everyone would fail. I remember one test where a score of 22 earned you an 'A' !!

	18-04-2005 22:48									#13
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I'm Computer Science, my BF's honours Chemical Engineering, and my brother is Mechanical Engineering.

$$$$

	18-04-2005 22:48									#14
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This is a bit misleading. What are the average salaries after, say, 20 years of employment?

	18-04-2005 22:57									#15
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Why do you assume the technical positions won't go up just as fast, if not faster?

You get hired doing a great job technically and work your way up the management chain. You end up doing a better job than the ****ers who study "business" as a BA and manage your local McDonalds.

	18-04-2005 22:59									#16
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We have this argument every year.

First, you have to address why the starting salaries vary so significantly.

Then, you have to reason why the Liberal Arts would have substantially more salary later in life than those who started high.

Or provide a link...-

	18-04-2005 23:01									#17
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Basically, few people are interested in doing those jobs, there is a high demand, and thus high salaries. Be glad that so few people find such menial and tedious jobs interesting. Also be glad cheap Asian competitors are kep out.

The sad truth is that no talent hacks pop singers make in 1 year what most people will make in 10 years if not more. If you really want money, get yourself a talent coach.

	18-04-2005 23:01									#18
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Accounting might not be as exciting as porno star, but it's not that bad. I don't care about boring that much anyway. I mostly care about little punks ****ing with me.

	18-04-2005 23:01									#19
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To be fair, the average person in sciences is smarter than the average person taking an arts degree, so we'd theoretically have to control for that...

	18-04-2005 23:07									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Kidicious Accounting might not be as exciting as porno star, but it's not that bad. I don't care about boring that much anyway. I mostly care about little punks ****ing with me.

Well, as long as you are like Herbert Kornfeld at accounts receivable...

	18-04-2005 23:09									#21
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quote: Originally posted by KrazyHorse To be fair, the average person in sciences is smarter than the average person taking an arts degree, so we'd theoretically have to control for that...

To be fair, the average person in sciences is geekier than the average person with an arts degree, so we theoretically have to pity them more....

If wealth = intelligence, Pamela Anderson makes you look like a retard.

	18-04-2005 23:09									#22
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quote: Originally posted by GePap Basically, few people are interested in doing those jobs, there is a high demand, and thus high salaries. Be glad that so few people find such menial and tedious jobs interesting.

I would think that tree-planting and garbage-picking that the Liberal Arts grads get to do would be more menial and tedious than, say, developing software.

	18-04-2005 23:10									#23
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yay, Ill be starting at 42 Gs on average, a 5% increase from last year (w00t.) but that doesnt count all the insider trading ill be doing. (currency trading etc)

	18-04-2005 23:14									#24
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College grads don;t work Sanitation and people doing planting have science or technical degrees (horticulture and so forth).

And Sanitation is a rather profitable job, if you get it. Strong unions, lost of free time, good benefits.

No, the arts degree people work as bar tenders and have lots of meaningless sex, while you make code.

	18-04-2005 23:13									#25
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quote: Originally posted by GePap To be fair, the average person in sciences is geekier than the average person with an arts degree, so we theoretically have to pity them more.... If wealth = intelligence, Pamela Anderson makes you look like a retard.

I find it odd that you're rebutting a claim I never made.

	18-04-2005 23:23									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Asher We have this argument every year.

What, the "menial and tedious" process where you go about trying to "prove" that what you do is more beneficial to both yourself and society than anybody else on this board?

That's more like every month.

	18-04-2005 23:23									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I would think that tree-planting and garbage-picking that the Liberal Arts grads get to do would be more menial and tedious than, say, developing software.

Asked and answered!

	18-04-2005 23:26									#28
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quote: Originally posted by GePap To be fair, the average person in sciences is geekier than the average person with an arts degree, so we theoretically have to pity them more.... If wealth = intelligence, Pamela Anderson makes you look like a retard.

The correlation isn't wealth = intelligence in all cases, just in cases like real jobs.

I wasn't aware Pamela was on a salary.

	18-04-2005 23:28									#29
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quote: Originally posted by GePap College grads don;t work Sanitation and people doing planting have science or technical degrees (horticulture and so forth). And Sanitation is a rather profitable job, if you get it. Strong unions, lost of free time, good benefits. No, the arts degree people work as bar tenders and have lots of meaningless sex, while you make code.

I knew arts degree members who worked at a grocery store bakery with me while I was in high school.

One guy was all pleased he had a Psychology degree and was making $16/hr after 15 years (the max under the union deal) baking bread in a hot, overcrowded bakery.

I made more than that by the time I was 18, and considerably more than that when I was 20.

As for benefits, I'm sure the city workers get nice benefits, but I'm pretty certain, say, IBM employees get more.

	18-04-2005 23:31									#30
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT What, the "menial and tedious" process where you go about trying to "prove" that what you do is more beneficial to both yourself and society than anybody else on this board? That's more like every month.

At least I know how to make reports using SQL.