22-04-2005 07:30									#1
	Stinking Fwench Government Whores Sell Soul (again) and Tiawan to Chinese Commies Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

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	22-04-2005 07:32									#2
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Someone translate the thread title please?

France can suck it.

	22-04-2005 07:33									#3
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Umm, France did a bad thing.

	22-04-2005 07:34									#4
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French women (except for the fatties)

	22-04-2005 07:36									#5
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France's foreign policy has always been for sale to the highest bidder.

	22-04-2005 07:37									#6
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Translation: France does not agree with the US. Americans hopping mad, but can do nothing.

	22-04-2005 07:39									#7
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Hi Agathon, a/s/l?

	22-04-2005 07:45									#8
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"Translation: France does not agree with the US. Americans hopping mad, but can do nothing."

From the link:

"Appearing to put his government at odds with the European Union, Raffarin said at the outset of the three day visit that Paris had no objections to the anti-secession law."

	22-04-2005 07:45									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon Translation: France does not agree with the US. Americans hopping mad, but can do nothing.

Translation: France may well sell China the means to walk the walk in Taiwan. Thousands could die, which doesn't matter since we made a few billions

	22-04-2005 07:48									#10
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Are you a smelly prostitute as the thread title implies, Spiff?

	22-04-2005 07:50									#11
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Why would I be? After all, I didn't vote for Raffarin

	22-04-2005 07:50									#12
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Spiffor is totally innocent. He doesn't like it either...

	22-04-2005 07:53									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Lancer Spiffor is totally innocent.

Yep. That's because I'm a Commie

	22-04-2005 07:58									#14
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For me it's because my dad was an immigrant from Switzerland.

	22-04-2005 08:02									#15
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Admit it, now you guys want to go to war with China so we can also delcare war on the French.

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France lacks long term vision in its foreign policy. They have been opportunistic short timers for quite some time. Sooner or later, it will bite them, but probably not until the current crop of politicians has retired to their villas in Provence.

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"but probably not until the current crop of politicians has retired to their villas in Provence."

Otherwise known as 'ground zero'.

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quote: France lacks long term vision in its foreign policy. They have been opportunistic short timers for quite some time. Sooner or later, it will bite them, but probably not until the current crop of politicians has retired to their villas in Provence.

Translation: we can't do jack about what you've done, but EVIL BAD **** IS GONNA ****EN HAPPEN TO YA!!! MARK MY WORDS!!1 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, AND IT MAY NOT HAPPEN TODAY... MAYBE NOT TOMORROW...BUT YOU'RE GONNA PAY BIG!!1111!

	22-04-2005 08:09									#19
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Agathon, Tiawan is a democracy. France just gave its ok for repressive communist China to invade.

U B down with that?

	22-04-2005 08:12									#20
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You have to understand that Agathon doesn't really care about anything else but giving the figurative finger to the US because he feels so marginalized by US cultural and political dominance.

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quote: France's foreign policy has always been for sale to the highest bidder.

True enough. Bush really should've tried bribing them before the Iraq war.

	22-04-2005 08:14									#22
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"You have to understand that Agathon doesn't really care about anything else but giving the figurative finger to the US because he feels so marginalized by US cultural and political dominance."

Understandable really.

	22-04-2005 08:14									#23
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quote: Agathon, Tiawan is a democracy. France just gave its ok for repressive communist China to invade. U B down with that?

Yes. Taiwan is a part of China. Plus it will get your stinking asses out of that part of the world quicker.

	22-04-2005 08:15									#24
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quote: "You have to understand that Agathon doesn't really care about anything else but giving the figurative finger to the US because he feels so marginalized by US cultural and political dominance."

As amply demonstrated by France ignoring said dominance with no effect.

The US has been threatening other western nations for years. None of us really listen. But I thought you knew that.

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go back to debating Asher. you're just pwning yourself here.

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quote: Originally posted by pchang France lacks long term vision in its foreign policy. They have been opportunistic short timers for quite some time. Sooner or later, it will bite them, but probably not until the current crop of politicians has retired to their villas in Provence.

Actually, there is one thing in our political agenda that's long term, and nearly visionary, and that's the European construction.

You can criticize France for international ADD all you want, this critic doesn't hold true at all in Europe (and in Africa). The main reason why the EU is so integrated today is because France and Germany have made consistent sacrifices for long term benefits. The Beneluxians are more dedicated, but if they had been at the helm of the EU from the beginning, today's EU would be the Beneluxian Superstate and nothing more.

	22-04-2005 08:20									#27
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quote: Actually, there is one thing in our political agenda that's long term, and nearly visionary, and that's the European construction.

How are the polls looking on the EU Constitution?

	22-04-2005 08:20									#28
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Up until those new Eastern members, it was the franco prussian superstate and nothing more......

	22-04-2005 08:22									#29
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Actually, I have nothing against France or its foreign policy. In fact, I find them quite predictable. You can get what you want as long as you are willing to deal. Bush just isn't a good deal maker.

	22-04-2005 08:23									#30
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Not really. You just don't live in the real world. Only the Americans really care about Taiwan, and among western nations only the Americans really have a bee in their bonnet about China (wth the possible exception of Australia).

Most of the rest of us think that the Taiwan China issue will sort itself out, since the Taiwanese are busy invading China rather than the other way around. I can't remember what the level of investment is and how many Taiwanese now live and work in Shanghai, but it's a lot.

China is an emerging power and we all better get used to it. There's nothing we can do other than try to maintain cordial relations with the Chinese. In fact of all the potential superpowers I worry about the Chinese the least. They have a couple of gripes, but historically China has not been an expansionist power.