12-05-2005 07:43									#1
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I prefer to call it football, but the older thread used "soccer" instead. Bad Imran bad.

The older thread can be found here

It's true that ManU has an ageing problem, and they don't have any real wingers such as Duff. Still their midfield line is poor for a large club.

	12-05-2005 07:57									#2
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quote: I prefer to call it football, but the older thread used "soccer" instead.

I did the thread a favor! I call it 'football' and you have a bunch of idiot posting pictures of American football and the discussion, instead of focusing on leagues, focuses on which is the better sport. I wanted to avoid any of that.

In other news, it seems Milan Baros has blasted Rafa Benitez for subbing him so much... yeah, like that's a good move. Look for Cisse to start in the CL Final and Baros to hardly get a chance.

Btw, speaking of English "heart":

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headli...=333110&cc=5901

quote: Wigan star played on with broken leg LONDON, May 11 (Reuters) - Wigan Athletic striker Jason Roberts fired the northern club into the Premier League playing with a broken leg. Roberts scored and set up another as Wigan, who were only elected to the Football League in 1978, clinched second place and automatic promotion with a 3-1 home victory over Reading on Sunday. 'I fractured my fibia early in the game and it's going to take six weeks to recover,' Roberts told The Independent newspaper. 'I'm going to go home to Grenada and relax. But I'm confident I'll be fit for the start of the season.' Roberts scored 21 goals this season as Wigan, bank-rolled by Dave Whelan, the multi-millionaire head of the JJB sports retail empire, finished seven points behind champions Sunderland.

:eeK:

	12-05-2005 08:02									#3
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Hmm... I want to post non-English stuff..

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headli...=333166&cc=5901

Galatasaray destroyed Fenerbache 5-1 to win the Turkish Cup. Hakan Sukur with 2 goals in that one.

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In the Italian league, Juve is only 3 points up on Milan with both playing 35 games.

In La Liga, Barcelona is up 6 points over Real and look like they'll take the Spanish crown.

	12-05-2005 08:07									#4
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Man, Arsenal completely destroyed Everton! That's like Brazil playing Lower Elbonia.

	12-05-2005 13:42									#5
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What? No it isn't it's the top team versus 4th.

Although admittedly Everton are closer to the bottom of the table than to the mighty Chelsea at the top with their record points total, number of wins, number of clean sheets, number of away wins etc. etc.

Woo.

	12-05-2005 14:10									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: I prefer to call it football, but the older thread used "soccer" instead. I did the thread a favor! I call it 'football' and you have a bunch of idiot posting pictures of American football and the discussion, instead of focusing on leagues, focuses on which is the better sport. I wanted to avoid any of that.

Next time just call it football. If idiots start posting we'll just ignore 'em... Plus the term world football is pretty much a dead giveaway of what the topic of the thread is, it's not like anyone outside the US plays American football (no, NFL Germany Europe doesn't count since aside from a few token Europeans to keep the home crowds happy, those are all Americans)...


Anyway, it seems the Dutch are not completely incapable of winning semi-finals The Dutch U17 squad won the semi-final of the EC against Italy yesterday (with Italy being the home team and after a 0-0 score at the 90 minute mark -- sweet, sweet revenge ) It was a great match, from the Dutch side anyway. The Italians played in their usual horrible style, and they didn't even do it well. At one point even the (entirely Italian) crowd started to cheer for the Dutch: "Olanda! Olanda!" The final will be against Turkey, who also have a great attacking team (probably better than the Dutch -- they're already called the new Portugal), so that promises to be a fantastic match. For those in Europe: Saturday, 19:00 CET, Eurosport.

Dutch youth teams usually suck arse, this is the furthest they've ever come. With the U20 team being one of the favourites for next month's world cup (which is held here in the Netherlands), and the new generation of the senior team still undefeated as well (granted, only after 9 matches or so and not with the best football in the world), things are certainly looking to be headed in the right direction for Dutch football...

	12-05-2005 14:17									#7
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I'd rather call it soccer than have the American football meatheads making a fuss.

	12-05-2005 23:58									#8
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH I'd rather call it soccer than have the American football meatheads making a fuss.

Same. I'm sure you remember when Sava was posting Chicago Bears posters every few posts when a 'football' thread was started.

Anyway, this is on another thread as well, but... HAW HAW!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headli...=333210&cc=5901

Glazer just bought the Irish stake in ManU. He's majority shareholder (has 63% as of this post). He needs to get 75%+1 to transfer all of his debt in acquiring the company passed onto ManU. Shareholders United are, of course, fighting tooth and nail to prevent that.

This should be interesting. If Glazer gets his goal, ManU are ****ed! I don't think Glazer will poo-poo a large debt like Abromovich might.

	13-05-2005 00:03									#9
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yeah, ill give you a poo-poo imran

	13-05-2005 01:59									#10
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And I repeat on the stupidity of the name for "American Football":

Exhibit 1: The ball

Football:


Soccer:


1:0 for soccer, which is played with a BALL instead of an EGG.
"Football" (the american thing) has therefor to be renamed to "Footegg" after stage 1 in the proofing process.

Exhibit 2: How is it played

Footegg:

As you can see the egg is carried in the hands.

Soccer:

As is visible in this wonderful exhibition you have to go to the extreme and try to hit the ball with your foot (or your head)
Out of 22 players on the field there are only 2 which are allowed to carry them with their hands and only in a defined zone... otherwise it is considered a FOUL!

2:0 for soccer and "Footegg" further has to be renamed to "Carryegg".


Therefor I demand that SOCCER will now be known as FOOTBALL and the thing that you currently call Football.... use another name! American Football is still fine.. though it further shows that American's have no idea what the game is about that they love so much.

	13-05-2005 02:16									#11
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Atahualpa

Do I have to spell out the history of the word again and PWN you again?!

And I notice you don't include Aussie Rules Football in your analysis. Jealous of American football, are we?

	13-05-2005 06:50									#12
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Oh quiet and stop jacking it further

	13-05-2005 06:53									#13
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Oh, lost in all the news, Man City extended Pearce's contract. Seeing as how he's led them to an impressive run to the borders of a UEFA Cup place, they had to sign him!

	13-05-2005 08:58									#14
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Hmmm... wouldn't it be interesting next year when Glazer's ManU face off against Abramovich's Chelsea? The Brit tabloids will be billing it as the next Cold War .

	13-05-2005 10:15									#15
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1 Sunderland 94
2 Wigan 87
3 Ipswich 85
4 Derby 76
5 Preston 75




Wigan? Pah!

	13-05-2005 10:22									#16
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Enjoy it now... one year from now you'll be crying your relegated heart out .

	13-05-2005 10:39									#17
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How about some spanish footie discussion?

	13-05-2005 10:43									#18
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Go ahead, Az .

Osasuna got into the King's Cup Final for the first time today . Though in a boring match (0-0, Osasuna was 1 up so played uber-defensively). So it's Osasuna against Real Betis.

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Ahh, the spanish cup.... was there ever a double title holder in spain? ( not mentioning of euro cups)

top dogs always seem to be beaten by teams from bum**** or worse, Ceuta.

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Well it's the only thing going now as Barca seem to have sown up the title. They are 6 points ahead of Real Madrid after 35 games played by each.

Btw, which "galacticos" do you think Madrid will buy this offseason? Adriano? Cristiano Ronaldo?

	14-05-2005 01:05									#21
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Glazer is now at 71.8% according to Soccernet.

And more bad news for the Mancs:

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headli...=333258&cc=5901

Their new uber-prospect they transfered in, John Obi Mikel, is now saying he was bullied to sign for ManU.

	14-05-2005 05:28									#22
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Hmm... I've been hearing rumors that Sir Alex may be leaving ManU because of the prospect of minimal transfer budget in the future. Though, of course, only rumor.

	15-05-2005 02:56									#23
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Even though it's likely I'm talking to myself...

Barca just won La Liga for the first time since '99.

	15-05-2005 03:08									#24
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What an unfortunate draw for Real...

They almost won that one, you know, to keep the faith...

	15-05-2005 03:11									#25
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Real are supposedly interested in Lampard so Mourinho came out "they cant afford him" I wonder the last time a manager of an English club couldve said that to Real Madrid and know its true.

	15-05-2005 03:25									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui Atahualpa Do I have to spell out the history of the word again and PWN you again?!

I missed that one. Do you have a link?

	15-05-2005 05:40									#28
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Eggball?? Don't we already have the term mellonball for that American travesty?

	15-05-2005 05:50									#29
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Who knows, maybe mellonball will take off around the world soon, then we'll all have to use the term "soccer" for no logical reason too.

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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor I missed that one. Do you have a link?

I did it in another thread on the matter. It might have been the last one of these. Basically the term football comes from England to describe any game played on foot rather than on horseback. Back in the mid 1800s, there were a ton of different football games, a kicking game, a dribbling game, and a pick it up and run with it game were ALL called football (with no real prefexes). That changed when the sports started to get organized. The English football association codified the rules to make football the kicking game. Well a few clubs weren't fond and had their own league of rugby football (named after the school the rules came from IIRC).

So you have association football and rugby football. Association Football (from the Football Association) becomes soccer (asSOCiation Football). Rugby football (colloquially called rugger at the time) was the precursor for American football and Australian rules football, both which have the same running with the ball. The sport of rugby, to this day, is officially 'rugby football'.

So basically people who say that soccer is an incorrect name for the sport are being incredibly ignorant about its history.

Some more reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football