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Modo44
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in western Poland
Jul 2004
time: 06:21
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Originally posted by CyberShy
Are there games on the market right now that are that moddable? |
Yes, there are. Various settings, like units, techs and the like are moddable in many games. Of course, it depends on the game if those tweaks are easy or difficult to make. Putting some data into text files is not a new idea in Civ, so the use of XML is just a minor improvement here—basically keeping up with current standards. What it will (hopefully!) provide is an easier way to distinguish things you can change safely (labels, variable values) from the ones that can break the game (variable names).
The ability to change the AI is not new either. But (hopefully) the controls available for modders will be much more precise in CIV, and far-reaching than so far. You see, there were options to mod the AI in Civ3. The thing is, they were not enough to achieve more than a slight improvement, even combined with tweaks to overall game mechanics (AU Mod). Python promises more power in this area, so my hopes are high.
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Godbear
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Babylon is in. The grey flag depicts what looks like an Aurochs, an extinct type of cattle which was the primary beast of burden in the Babylonian world.
Maybe there are actually nineteen civs like was originally announced.
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Spiffor
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CPA - Evil Clone brigade
Nov 2001
time: 06:21
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Originally posted by TechWins
Not to cause controversy but aren't the Ehtiopians more deserving to be a Civ than the Malinese? |
The Ethiopians are worthy of being included in a comprehensive list of civs, because they had the oldest African empire (not many African empires stood the test of time, Ethiopia did).
However, in terms of sheer power, wealth and prestige, I think the Mali are far above the Ethiopians. During the middle ages, the Mali were Europe's main source of Gold; Timbuktu was a great religious and scholarly centre; and the empire was much bigger than Ethiopia.
I think the Mali (actually, that would be "the west-African empires", because there were three empires following each other, spanning on roughly the same area) are the most "civilized" in Africa, with Ethiopia coming second. A much better choice than the Zulu in any case.
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Locutus
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ACS CTP1/2 Manager & Civ4 Co-Manager
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Hengelo, The Netherlands
Nov 1999
time: 06:21
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Originally posted by Spiffor
The Ethiopians are worthy of being included in a comprehensive list of civs, because they had the oldest African empire (not many African empires stood the test of time, Ethiopia did). |
The Ethiopians are not by a long stretch the oldest African empire. That one is a close contest between Egypt and Nubia. However, they are the oldest independent country in the world today (arguably with the exception of China), they've existed as an independent state since the first century.
The Mali were very important for a few centuries (at one point they were even the 2nd largest empire in the world), but they didn't last more than a few centuries. Ethiopia was one of the world's most important empires in late Roman times, and have been around in one form or another ever since.
What's more important, a short period of great glory or a long stretch of somewhat lesser glory? That's very much a subjective thing, as making lists of civs always is. You can't discount the HUGE impact Mali had on particularly the Muslim world, but you can't discount Ethiopia's longetivity and their influence in ancient times either. Personally, I'd say they're both about on the same level of importance: not as important as Greece, Babylon or China, but more important than some others like Americans, Aztecs or Koreans. A long, long, long stretch above the Zulu anyway 
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