25-05-2005 17:15									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus When I first read that, I saw Alexman.

I fell in the same trap.

Seriously, Firaxis, Alexman should be in! Make him the leader of the Greeks in one of the expansion! He deserves it!

	25-05-2005 18:13									#122
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Way to go Locutus ! I really apreciate it !

	25-05-2005 18:32									#123
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Locutus, you are the man! Nice work and what a nice service for everyone! Thank you.

	25-05-2005 22:04									#124
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Thanks for the kind words everyone.

quote: Originally posted by Gramphos You should make it a webpage.

It *is* a website. I just remove all the <br>s (and line-breaks from tables) when I 'upload' it here I figured maybe Markos and Dan are interested once the Civ4 section is up...

If you want to view it as a website, it's here (but the Civilopedia is really messed up, never put any line breaks in it)...

	25-05-2005 23:23									#125
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This is really great! Thanks, Locutus!

	26-05-2005 00:32									#126
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What is the Confucianism symbol? Rather, what would the symbol of Confucianism be? DO they have one?

If it were Zoroastrianism, the symbol would be the Farohar, the winged seat of Ahura Mazda.

I'm not sure, but I don't think the little icon looks like that.

And what happens before a culture has converted ot on eof the 7 religions? I hope they're not atheists. Is there a tribal mythology option?

	26-05-2005 03:23									#127
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The only half reasonable symbol I can think of for Confucianism would be ru:

	26-05-2005 03:28									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Solver The only half reasonable symbol I can think of for Confucianism would be ru:

I concur. Yet even that is a bit of a stretch...

	26-05-2005 03:38									#129
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Is this new? (sorry, bit hard to keep up)
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy...oniv/media.html

It's the official trailer.

EDIT: nevermind, it's the same one as on CIVanon.
Somehow, I missed that one.

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	26-05-2005 03:43									#130
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Well, it's AN official trailer.

This one's a kind of comedic tongue-in-cheek teaser trailer.

	26-05-2005 08:57									#131
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph Seriously, Firaxis, Alexman should be in! Make him the leader of the Greeks in one of the expansion! He deserves it!

And so should Locutus! He could be a leader of the Vikings. The Borg are Swedish aren't they?

(Star Trek joke...sorry )

	26-05-2005 12:35									#132
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Bring in the dutch and let me ....uh Locotus be their leader

ok, on 2nd thought, let me just be their leader

	26-05-2005 12:43									#133
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The dutch ... I'm quite sure they will be part of an expansion, but for now I'd rather have the Greeks in the game.

	26-05-2005 12:58									#134
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quote: Originally posted by lockstep The dutch ... I'm quite sure they will be part of an expansion, but for now I'd rather have the Greeks in the game.

quiet sure?
even in cIIIv we had to wait until the 2nd expansion pack (which was the first to include the dutch anyway)

But I'm sure someone will mod the dutch in soon after the release anyway
Not that I care

	26-05-2005 14:06									#135
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Talking about the Greeks, these fearsome chaps in an IGN screenshot look a lot like them:

Either the number of civs given by Firaxis is incorrect (highly improbable), someone else is using Greek units and their Civ3 color, the Babylonian flag (and Agade) belong to some other Civ or there's something fishy going on...

Again, they could be also Aztecs judging by the Aztec-y emblem on their flag, but this still leaves the mystery of a Greek hoplite in the concept art unsolved.

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	26-05-2005 18:06									#136
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Thanks for the kind words everyone.

Add mine applause for a job really well done.

quote: Originally posted by Locutus It *is* a website. I figured maybe Markos and Dan are interested once the Civ4 section is up...

I think that Firaxis itself should be ask your permission to use your excellent fact list, pass it to someone inside the team just to clean away any early mistake, and publish it on its site as a "teaser" for the game.

Or at least Markos and Dan should find it the place it deserve, into a proper Civ IV Apolyton Site branch, and let Civ III area to fade away to the background.

	26-05-2005 20:06									#137
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quote: Originally posted by Patriqvium Talking about the Greeks, these fearsome chaps in an IGN screenshot look a lot like them: Either the number of civs given by Firaxis is incorrect (highly improbable), someone else is using Greek units and their Civ3 color, the Babylonian flag (and Agade) belong to some other Civ or there's something fishy going on... Again, they could be also Aztecs judging by the Aztec-y emblem on their flag, but this still leaves the mystery of a Greek hoplite in the concept art unsolved.

Sadly, I think they've already established that that unit is just the standard spearmen, and not a Greek Hoplite/Phalanx. Unfortunate.

	26-05-2005 20:19									#138
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That CIV-Anon trailer is a classic bit of marketing...!

	26-05-2005 22:06									#139
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You're not kidding. It's one of my new favorites.

	26-05-2005 22:08									#140
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quote: Originally posted by Patriqvium Talking about the Greeks, these fearsome chaps in an IGN screenshot look a lot like them: Either the number of civs given by Firaxis is incorrect (highly improbable), someone else is using Greek units and their Civ3 color, the Babylonian flag (and Agade) belong to some other Civ or there's something fishy going on... Again, they could be also Aztecs judging by the Aztec-y emblem on their flag, but this still leaves the mystery of a Greek hoplite in the concept art unsolved.

Unfortunately that's by no means conclusive proof the Greeks are in (as Alex said, the unit is a regular Spearman so that just leaves the colour). That said, anyone want to speculate on what this flag is? Is it Aztec?

	26-05-2005 22:14									#141
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Looks like the Aztec calendar to me.

	26-05-2005 22:23									#142
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Looks like a face in the centre, could be Euro-Greecian or Meso-American...

The mystery will be answered in time, I am sure!

	26-05-2005 22:37									#143
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It's definitely the Aztec Calendar.

See this attached image:

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	26-05-2005 22:38									#144
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That thing in the flag is most definitely the Aztec calendar . I'm surprised it wasn't recognized at once :P.

	26-05-2005 23:31									#145
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http://www.firaxis.com/games/game_detail.php?gameid=6

New information in it

One of six new screenshots has Confucianism in it.

helicopter gunship is a unit

	26-05-2005 23:38									#146
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Confucianism is in. Demands to convert to a religion are possible. Release date is Winter 2005. The Oracle is still in. Elephants are in .

	26-05-2005 23:42									#147
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This is all good news. I wonder if Elephants are Indian civ-specific or available to all...

	26-05-2005 23:42									#148
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They seem a resource, not a unit. Probably the Ivory resource.

	26-05-2005 23:59									#149
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Maybe accessing the ivory resource also allows usage of War Elephants...

Like Iron or Saltpeter...

	27-05-2005 00:29									#150
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Oh Lucutus, when doing an (large) update of the OP, wouldn't it be better to start a new thread and lock the old one?
As it stands we have a mix of both old and new info, which is confusing, especially to those that don't frequent the forum on a daily basis ( Yes, they do exist )