01-06-2005 20:36									#271
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I am not putting anything against the work Solver has done, just illuminating on the way I read Rasputins post...

and yes he is a vollenteer good value

yet so too there have not been that many interviews, just thought it would be worth having a few other names thrown out for discussion

	01-06-2005 21:13									#272
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Unfortunately, interviewing random active (and inactive) people is not really what the current Interviews are about, as far as I know.

Interviews at apolyton.net/misc/interviews

BEHIND THE CODE: INTERVIEW SERIES - 2
GALACTIC CIVILIZATIONS - 1
RISE OF NATIONS - 2
SIMGOLF - 1
CIVILIZATION III - 2
FACES OF APOLYTON - 14
BIG HUGE GAMES: 2001 - 1
A CLOSER LOOK AT OUR HOSTED SITES - 1
UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL: YEAR 2000 SERIES - 1
@MAC - 1
BIG HUGE GAMES: 2000 - 1
CALL TO POWER - 6
ALPHA CENTAURI - 1

Total - 42

looks like a major component of the interviews is to do with the "Faces of Apolyton", the very people that make up the community...

	01-06-2005 21:14									#273
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus Rex People often confuse spam with writing multiple posts in a row... Maybe the one above was a border case, but often (my) multiple posts quote different people or they contain thoughts I didn't think of when posting the first one. They're not spam just because noone else posted in between them... Carolus

this known as arnelosing, IIUC. I do it when im responding to different people, or have something substantive thats significantly different from whats in a prior post. If what i have to say addresses essentially the same issue, I would edit the prior post instead.

	01-06-2005 21:36									#274
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Carlous

I don't think that mark or dan have the script, but it is possible in PhBB (at least) to count the average number of characters that are used in a posters posts. That way you could more easily determine the spammers v. long-winded posters. However, it also counted QUOTE tags, and so a lot of QUOTED material was added to disrupt a correct appraisement.

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quote: You seem to ignore a dynamic effect... It's not just a matter of counting the existing off-topic posts, but also the ones (never written) that would have been written to get easy +1's... The incentive to post would be much stronger and the posts even more numerous than today's off-topic forum contains... Imagine short replies on whatever subject available... You'd easily get down 50 - 100 posts a day... Perhaps someone in this thread already has that rate, but that only strengthens my argument

That is very true. Personally, I don't do many short replies (becasue I'm not online enough to make a reply after every second poster-->I think that's the main incentive for the short replies made on everyone's comments... those people who have work internet access have the ability to go wild with posts)

On another topic...I would, if OT posts had counted, probably be a deity by now if not becuse I KNOW I have made 400-600 posts there since 2001, but because I stopped posting there as frequently after post counts were taken away from that section. I no longer felt a sense of accomplishment.

I don't spam, but I like to have my words count somewhere.

For me, it's all about the statistics

AMDF... (attack, mvt., def., firepower)

-d.c.

	01-06-2005 22:27									#275
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud AMDF... (attack, mvt., def., firepower)

Sssshhhhhh.....

	01-06-2005 22:30									#276
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I think everyone has guessed wrong at this point, Nikolai!

	01-06-2005 22:33									#277
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Me too. But he's ruining it all. DC can't be the one's asking, he ain't a newbee, particulary in this sub-forum...!

	01-06-2005 22:58									#278
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Something else I feel I need to say on the FoA interviews. It is my belief (with which the owners agreed) that the official interviews should be mostly serious. That is, be about the specific forum member, his/her perception of Civ, Apolyton, and so on. Pretty serious stuff. I'm sure that it's possible to conduct interviews with members of one section (whether it be Civ2, Civ3 or the OTF) and have the interview filled with inside jokes and such things, however, that is not the goal - remember that one of the goals is also to introduce people to sections they may not know much about, for instance, the FoA#2 with WesW was supposed to also give an insight about CtP modding.

Now I really can't wait to see what will be said about the next interview . I will be getting started on it soon.

	01-06-2005 23:54									#279
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hhmmm... that does bring up an interesting question- what do A/M/D/HP stand for? I really would like to know. The question's been bugging me for the past several years...
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Don't see anything wrong about asking only serious questions Solver (as the in-jokes do sometimes become quite byzantine)- but it is a good idea to ask personal questions about their relation to the forum and other posters as well, as that introduces a 'human' element to the interviews.

	02-06-2005 00:05									#280
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Well DC, that has been done, and will continue to be done. I'm definitely talking about the personal side of the posters - unless they wish otherwise.

	02-06-2005 01:10									#281
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Then you'd have to interview almost everyone, to be fair. I don't mean to be rude here, but what could each of these people say that would be different? And if it takes so long for Solver to do an interview, how could he possibly take the time to interview everyone?

Why not, look at it as a chance to get to know one another. They don't have to be long and boring*, more of what-makes-you-tick kind of thing.




* not saying Solver interviews are, I've enjoyed the interview with Locutus very much.

	02-06-2005 02:24									#282
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Nice cover.

	02-06-2005 02:29									#283
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and I will say we should remember that Faces of Apolyton are not exactly all posters but more so contributors to the sites existence..

I mean Brian Reynolds..nope havent seen a lot of him

I did however have a few nice encounters with Yin26

lol

ohh that was fun

	02-06-2005 03:13									#284
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot Interviews at apolyton.net/misc/interviews BEHIND THE CODE: INTERVIEW SERIES - 2 GALACTIC CIVILIZATIONS - 1 RISE OF NATIONS - 2 SIMGOLF - 1 CIVILIZATION III - 2 FACES OF APOLYTON - 14 BIG HUGE GAMES: 2001 - 1 A CLOSER LOOK AT OUR HOSTED SITES - 1 UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL: YEAR 2000 SERIES - 1 @MAC - 1 BIG HUGE GAMES: 2000 - 1 CALL TO POWER - 6 ALPHA CENTAURI - 1 Total - 42 looks like a major component of the interviews is to do with the "Faces of Apolyton", the very people that make up the community...

Not quite, Paddy. There are only twelve, as two are just continuations. And six of the interviews, are of Staff members.

	02-06-2005 03:26									#285
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Nuclear Not quite, Paddy. There are only twelve, as two are just continuations. And six of the interviews, are of Staff members.

good point Lord Nuclear

so would you say maybe the interviews are not really Faces of Apolyton but more people whom help make Apolyton a Great Place?

I say that to coincide with my previous post and in support of yours

	02-06-2005 03:45									#286
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll good point Lord Nuclear so would you say maybe the interviews are not really Faces of Apolyton but more people whom help make Apolyton a Great Place? I say that to coincide with my previous post and in support of yours

Yes, that's my thinking.

	02-06-2005 04:02									#287
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quote: Originally posted by Rasputin i unfortunatly have had little to do with most people interviewed so far, so the interview feature has not held my interest. perhaps if we had a secondary interviewer interviewing others it may create a wider audience for the interview feature

emphasised parts of my previous post.

quote: The people that have been interviewed so far include prominent CtPers and SMACers,

Not my fav games so dontknow anyof them

quote: well-known Civ2 players,

I only interested in civ2 MPers

quote: Yin, the biggest critic of Civ3,

well known poster but i have not encountered him much in thread i post at.

quote: Ming

This interview i did read a few times

quote: and even DanQ, one of the owners

and read this too.


I am not saying that no one is interested, i am just saying the interviews are not of the people i would lile to hea rmore about.

And i cant underdstand why their is only one interviewer, why cant we get another or more volunteers. the interview could still be proof read by solver before being put into the feature. but a tleast more interviews would be conducted.

	02-06-2005 04:47									#288
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Rasputin- you forget- MY interview was one of them

you surely read THAT one since our paths cross QUITE often

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as a side note: my interview was NOT self conducted despite what the site says- people submitted questions in a thread, I compiled them, answered them all, then sent the compiled list to solver who submitted the list to DanQ. Somewhere along the line someone thought I interviewed myself... strangely enough.

I thought the question submission went very well, actually. I think it should be done again in the future- at least for 1 or 2 questions.

	02-06-2005 04:53									#289
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud Rasputin- you forget- MY interview was one of them you surely read THAT one since our paths cross QUITE often -- as a side note: my interview was NOT self conducted despite what the site says- people submitted questions in a thread, I compiled them, answered them all, then sent the compiled list to solver who submitted the list to DanQ. Somewhere along the line someone thought I interviewed myself... strangely enough. I thought the question submission went very well, actually. I think it should be done again in the future- at least for 1 or 2 questions.

I thought we had a good start in our little interview section but alas DC, it went south

Great try Mate

Gramps

	02-06-2005 05:36									#290
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uuummmm yeah of course i read yours

	02-06-2005 06:20									#291
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Oh yes, I think everyone here is forgetting about, as Grandpa Troll has mentioned- that the Storywriters Guild ran a short-lived interview series with posters interviewing each other.

Metaliturtle, and Grandpa Troll were interviewed here: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=123420 and here: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=124922 respectively

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But Grandpa Troll- what I was actually of course referring to was Solver's interview of myself the last Faces of Apolyton interview done in 2002... before Locutus' feature completed in 2004.

	02-06-2005 06:21									#292
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ha-ha- funny guy there Rasputin

*cracks the whip*
get to work on that June 2005 Posters Report

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*edit- ah, i see the posts on it as I was typing this- nice work there Raspammutin

	02-06-2005 06:42									#293
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quote: Originally posted by DarkCloud Oh yes, I think everyone here is forgetting about, as Grandpa Troll has mentioned- that the Storywriters Guild ran a short-lived interview series with posters interviewing each other. Metaliturtle, and Grandpa Troll were interviewed here: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=123420 and here: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...threadid=124922 respectively -- But Grandpa Troll- what I was actually of course referring to was Solver's interview of myself the last Faces of Apolyton interview done in 2002... before Locutus' feature completed in 2004.

OH indeed sir, I was, umm, how does one from da hood put it, givin you props (I reckon thats means proper respect??) but yes I did catch that old buddy

Carry on, Ahm going bak 2 me trailer..

* Grandpa Troll hollers out "Woman, get me a beer"

	02-06-2005 07:19									#294
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Darn there Trailer mate, you like our new training department building...

Attachment: trailer.jpg
This has been downloaded 47 time(s).

	02-06-2005 07:48									#295
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Zoidberg WasnŽt EvC/Thorn given the custom title "Village Idiot" once?

No, he was given the title of "Apolyton Daffy Duck." I know because I coined it.

And I would be a deity if OT posts counted. Easily.

I still say that OT posts counting should be a PLUS benefit.

	02-06-2005 07:53									#296
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT No, he was given the title of "Apolyton Daffy Duck." I know because I coined it. And I would be a deity if OT posts counted. Easily. I still say that OT posts counting should be a PLUS benefit.

Why? Whether you are a PLUS member or not, this is still a site about TBS games.

	02-06-2005 08:15									#297
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I think OT posts should count regardless.

However bizarrely, the owners of this site deem differently. They argue that this is a Civ-related site and that only Civ-related "discussions" should count towards post counts. Like this discussion, apparently.

Now I have little idea as to how this site generates revenue. Obviously PLUS memberships play a role, as do sales through the Apolyton store.

However, if there is revenue created through various ppi streams (paid-per-impression, or "ad views") and OT page hits count towards PPI scales, then the owners of this site are being a bit two-faced about the entire OT thing: They declare one section of the site to be second-class, but still generate the same amount of revenue per hits as they do for the other sections?

From the FAQ:

quote: A recent(end of August 2002) addition. 468x60 ads shown on the top of all pages for visitors coming from the US. Run by 24/7 Real Media. Both the number of times they are shown(adviews) and the percentage of people who click on them(CTR-Click Through Ratio) matter to us.

And for what purpose was OT counts removed? Why, for no purpose whatsoever, except to "show" the people who enjoy the community here, long after the games have lost meaning to their lives, that they are not wanted anymore... but, apparently, their clicks are.

	02-06-2005 08:17									#298
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quote: Originally posted by JohnT I think OT posts should count regardless. However bizarrely, the owners of this site deem differently. They argue that this is a Civ-related site and that only Civ-related "discussions" should count towards post counts. Like this discussion, apparently.

I'm of the opinion that A/C posts should not count either.

	02-06-2005 09:58									#299
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i guess its all a moot point cause the owners have already decided.

but i still dont se ehow a "turn sent" post is worth more than a _ post

	02-06-2005 14:14									#300
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If there was no post count there would be no debate. WeŽd all be equal (except for the mods and owners who are more equal than others... ) The titles could remain, but be rewarded based on the length of membership rather than how much you post.