28-05-2005 12:04									#121
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quote: Originally posted by Adagio Will those stats ever return? I miss them

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	28-05-2005 16:25									#122
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quote: Originally posted by Trip Oh well, looks like I'll never be a Deity. So close I was.

you will get plenty of opportunity when civ iv arrives

	28-05-2005 20:55									#123
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I´m on my way to King, only 54 posts to go. But Deity is so far off I don´t even see that as a possibility...

	28-05-2005 21:37									#124
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I had the same thoughts of me being Emperor a little over a year ago. I used ages to get near to king. Then I lost my connection to Poly( %)¤/% ISP ) for nearly half a year. And look where I am now! With my PPD the last 3 months, I think I'll be Deity in a little over two years from now. If this place still is running and I am still here, and I somehow think that is quite possible.

	28-05-2005 22:26									#125
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matey, this place will be bouncing along in two years from now

and I look forward to quite a few new people wandering these halls, what with all the publicity of civ iv

so now is a good time for us all to be putting on our happy faces and shaking out our welcoming mats to make many new settlers feel welcome

hopefully the spite and rubbish of the ancient dl games will fall away, and the many new converts to civ will thus me made welcome not only in the civ forums, but throughout the many forums that make up the community that be Apolyton.

	28-05-2005 23:54									#126
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Well, luckily the new people will start in the Civ4 forums, not the OTF, which can indeed scare newbies away fast . And if the release of Civ3 in 2001 is any indication, we should get a pretty noticable increase in new registrations once Civ4 is out.

	28-05-2005 23:54									#127
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quote: Originally posted by Solver Well, luckily the new people will start in the Civ4 forums, not the OTF, which can indeed scare newbies away fast . And if the release of Civ3 in 2001 is any indication, we should get a pretty noticable increase in new registrations once Civ4 is out.

Well said

	28-05-2005 23:56									#128
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot matey, this place will be bouncing along in two years from now and I look forward to quite a few new people wandering these halls, what with all the publicity of civ iv so now is a good time for us all to be putting on our happy faces and shaking out our welcoming mats to make many new settlers feel welcome hopefully the spite and rubbish of the ancient dl games will fall away, and the many new converts to civ will thus me made welcome not only in the civ forums, but throughout the many forums that make up the community that be Apolyton.

Well, I can attest to the fact that despite my best efforts
most still l ve me here..

seriously though, if I can find a home in CIVIII with my lack of ability than anyone can

	29-05-2005 00:01									#129
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For the record, I'm not on the list, but if OT posts counted I'd be a deity, or very, very close.

Personally, I don't think PBEM and diplogames and so forth should add to post count either.

By their very nature they are club threads, and those aren't allowed.

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	29-05-2005 00:04									#130
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quote: Personally, I don't think PBEM and diplogames and so forth should add to post count either.

I am a demogame hater (well, somewhat, I dislike them), but they probably should add to the post count too. After all, those people play Civ, which is what the site is about. It's not only on-topic, it's actually more so than some other parts of this site (such as this forum).

	29-05-2005 00:07									#131
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But they exclude a lot of posters, that's the problem I have with 'em.

I can't, fo rinstance go to one of these threads and post a +1.

However, I do play forum games where that sort of thing happens as well.

So I think I doth protest to much........


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	29-05-2005 00:10									#132
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Realistically, you can say the same about many threads. Someone who's not a Civ3 player is excluded from most Civ3 threads (like the strategy ones). Someone who doesn't have CtP is excluded forthe most part from CtP forums, and so on.
The community is too big here, and it's obviously split anyway into smaller parts, where people don't often even know those in other parts. Some of the best known Civ3 players aren't recognized at all outside the Civ3 forums, there are a few people who only post regularly on the Spanish forum, and then, of course, there is a ton of people who only post in the OTF or only in Civ2 forums actively.

	29-05-2005 00:23									#133
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well basically this is still called "Apolyton - Civilization Site"

so long live Civ, in its many forms

and Tube, there are many story threads in the PBEM tracker threads, and surely you could get involved... adding to that, a copy of civ II, ctp or civ III is really not all that much $$$, then you could really get into one of many games in many various forums

Solver, not sure of why you dislike demo games, you are definitly welcome to come join in the new Civ III Demo Game based in Japan that is forming up at the moment. actually you all are welcome to get involved. That be the joy of a demo game, all can be involved, no matter if you be an elite civ player, and old battle scarred veteran (like me), right through to dictators like Aqualung Modo and Ljube, then across the spectrum to new settlers that have either just found Apolyton, or have lurked for some time and have just opened the door and finally decided to trust us as a community and to get involved.

	29-05-2005 00:25									#134
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you would think with all the comments a few more deities would emerge here

	29-05-2005 00:47									#135
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My dislike of demogames is nothing personal against any of its members or somesuch - although I was unhappy when some people used demogames as an excuse for their spam when it all started. The reason I don't like demogames is that it's simply not the way I enjoy playing Civ - I prefer to sit and play myself, the demogame way just doesn't appeal to me.

And, I do appreciate the new phenomenon that demogames are, brought something interesting, as in a change.

	29-05-2005 01:02									#136
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well said Solver, well said indeed

Civ certainly does have a way of bringing many differing types of people together from so many nations... and here at Apolyton be a great big melting pot.

my young lady and I spend a great many months each year in Sydney, and it be quite a multiracial city... I see Apolyton in a similar light

and Gramps, we not upto page 26 yet matey

	29-05-2005 01:10									#137
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quote: and here at Apolyton be a great big melting pot

More like a rat circus .

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While I personaly really don't like the more traditional demogame - waaaaay too many rules - I had a lot of fun with the team demogame.
It also made me a much better player.

	29-05-2005 01:34									#139
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quote: Originally posted by Paddy the Scot well said Solver, well said indeed Civ certainly does have a way of bringing many differing types of people together from so many nations... and here at Apolyton be a great big melting pot. my young lady and I spend a great many months each year in Sydney, and it be quite a multiracial city... I see Apolyton in a similar light and Gramps, we not upto page 26 yet matey

indeed

I like the way you put it PTS..we are a melting pot here

I dont unerstand one thing though:

The OT circuit..

where did many come from?

civII?

AC?

just wondering is all

Gramps

	29-05-2005 01:37									#140
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If you mean the OTF posters, the core ones are, apparently, those who played Civ2 and got bored of it, or the old-timers who still play some Civ2, but have since taken an interest in OT. It seems though that recently there have been a few more people who don't play civ at all but register, this probably owing to the fact that we're actually quite a big forum now.

Back in 2001, Ming used to say that OTF posters are the old Civ2'ers waiting for Civ3. Now it's former-Civ2ers, former-Civ3ers, former-SMACers, and many others.

	29-05-2005 01:40									#141
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ok thanks

me Im probably more like a Deity based on CTP-CIVIII and writers anonymous..er..wanna-B writer

	29-05-2005 01:44									#142
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I came here because of Civ 3 and moseyed on down to the OT and got stuck.

OT is like a tar pit. It stinks but you can't escape it once you're in it.



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	29-05-2005 01:44									#143
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Quite a few of us came from the old alpha.owo board, and thus were quite familiar with the concept of Off Topic

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quote: Originally posted by Tuberski I came here because of Civ 3 and moseyed on down to the OT and got stuck. OT is like a tar pit. It stinks but you can't escape it once you're in it. ACK!

and then you start to like the stink

	29-05-2005 01:47									#145
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hehe, scarey that part

	29-05-2005 01:49									#146
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this actually is turning into a pretty decent thread

I occassionally go to OT and when I hear about post count due to "turn 34 sent" I think about the games that get stalled when someone sent a turn but didnt post and the email gotten hyper=spaced zapped so when you post the game is tracked better

I love playing civIII and CTP but abhor slow games not the ones where someone is away but the ones where no one really plays turns like they should

	29-05-2005 02:02									#147
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I still remember DarkCloud's prediction that I would become an off-topicer. First he said I'd be one at 5000 posts, and then at 7000 posts. I'm over that, too, and still barely ever post in the OT, unless I'm in a silly mood, or really have something to say there, which is rare. OTOH, our OT is actually a forum where you can have a decent debate, once you learn to ignore the trolls and spam, unlike other forums I have seen where any debating would be a pointless waste of time (TM).

	29-05-2005 02:05									#148
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quote: Originally posted by Grandpa Troll this actually is turning into a pretty decent thread I occassionally go to OT and when I hear about post count due to "turn 34 sent" I think about the games that get stalled when someone sent a turn but didnt post and the email gotten hyper=spaced zapped so when you post the game is tracked better I love playing civIII and CTP but abhor slow games not the ones where someone is away but the ones where no one really plays turns like they should

I agree Gramps, a good thread indeed

yes the tracker threads certainly are great value for keeping games on "track" (what other word )

yet in amongst all the "turn sent" comes Rasputin, a master in the art of saying nothing, yet making sure he gets the opportunity to have post his thoughts... Raz has really taken many of the tracker threads to task, encouraging players to bring out their stories, to be creative and bring the game to life... basically we are seeing people that have necer contributed to the story threads coming out of their shells and writing some great stuff. Ok, each component may only be a few lines here, a paragraph or two there, yet they merge in a great set of yarns that are a lot of fun to read and follow... this is in turn bringing others along encoiraging people to continue their stories and keep the game alive

in amongst all that it must be noted that their are several games that operate as "Silent Games", this being where no communication other than "Turn Sent" is allowed, making for strangely intriguing games

quote: I still remember DarkCloud's prediction that I would become an off-topicer. First he said I'd be one at 5000 posts, and then at 7000 posts. I'm over that, too, and still barely ever post in the OT, unless I'm in a silly mood, or really have something to say there, which is rare. OTOH, our OT is actually a forum where you can have a decent debate, once you learn to ignore the trolls and spam, unlike other forums I have seen where any debating would be a pointless waste of time (TM).

Yes the OT is fun, and yes indeed some good debates are to be found within... amongst it all the OT has a valued place here in Apolyton.

I am a player of Civ, Civ III be my current home, as I look to the future of Civ IV , yet I still dabble in CTP at least once a month with a group of mates and I also play Civ II on the playstation with my brainstrust I have said it before and will say it again, long live Civ

	29-05-2005 02:25									#149
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What about civ1 then?

Stumbled across the old civ folder some months ago. Despite the outdated graphics, lousy diplomacy, etcetera, etcetera the original still has a very strong grip on me

Even if I made my way all the way to the top(emperor) I see that my current strategies are much more effective the ones I used before I discovered apolyton.

Oh, does anyone know why I can't make screenshots from it?

	29-05-2005 02:29									#150
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OK, some PBEM tracking threads are crazy, such as when Troll posts in one 170 times, and the other guy 27 .

I've got the thought recently that maybe I should also look for some other forums on the Web. After all, Civ's not my only interest, obviously, but this forum is the only one I am on regularly.

About screens from Civ1... it should work, I guess. Then again, maybe Windows 2000/XP doesn't like taking screenies of a 16bit app.